Cousins suspended one game

VF21

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General info: From what has been said by those in attendance at the game last night, Boogie was very angry that Karl wasn't standing up for him and the rest of the team against the officials.
 
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LPKingsFan said:
Reports are that it continued after the game, not just what that video shows on the bench. (think there was a cryptic CD tweet after the game too)

Reports are he targeted Vlade as well.
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Do you have any links? I did not hear/see anything from any kind of reliable source that included Vlade in his outburst.
 
Bricklayer

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VF21 said:
General info: From what has been said by those in attendance at the game last night, Boogie was very angry that Karl wasn't standing up for him and the rest of the team against the officials.
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A young and feisty George might have. The term spitting mad was invented after watching George Karl heat up on the sidelines back in his prime.

Those days are done.
 
biltalent

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Bricklayer said:
I did. He yelled at him. Certainly actionable if he used magic words, which I imagine were included, but actually I was prepared for much worse.

This is not what he said, but I could substitute in a collective KF rant, or a Bobby Jackson rant, with that same video and it would be no more than an expression of everybody's collective frustration.

"Where the **** is Willie? Why won't you play him? We're getting ****ing killed on the boards, where's my help?: And what the **** am I doing standing at the 3pt line when they are guarding me with a 6'9" PF? Can you at least start doubling Kyrie? Call a ****ing timeout? ANYTHING??? WTF!?!"


I think that would be a decent summation of the running dialogue of every Kings fan watching the game in person or at home. Cuz expressing similar sentiments is hardly going to shock me.
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Just to provide some perspective I think this happenend after Collison got obviously fouled but no call and than a Cav got a call on the other end for less. And Cousins himself didnt get calls as well.
And there is also this
Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham
From what I've heard, DeMarcus Cousins directed frustration at George Karl for not having his players' backs/coming to their defense

Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham
Also have heard, maybe encouraging sign - by the next timeout, both DeMarcus Cousins and Coach Karl interacted as if nothing happened
 
Iced Espresso

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biltalent said:
Just to provide some perspective I think this happenend after Collison got obviously fouled but no call and than a Cav got a call on the other end for less. And Cousins himself didnt get calls as well.
And there is also this
Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham
From what I've heard, DeMarcus Cousins directed frustration at George Karl for not having his players' backs/coming to their defense

Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham
Also have heard, maybe encouraging sign - by the next timeout, both DeMarcus Cousins and Coach Karl interacted as if nothing happened
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I was at the game attempting to lead a bs chant with that odd flagrant review, where it became a no call. I'd have to wonder if that started things, but I'm not sure what Grant and Jerry were seeing/saying on TV.

I don't remember a flagrant review ever leading to a no call.
 
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LPKingsFan said:
https://twitter.com/ChrisMannixYS/status/708041850569928705
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Interesting - because no one else has said anything about DMC and Vlade. I think Mannix may have, once again, received less than credible info and chosen to run with it anyway.

Bottom line, though, is that Vlade took the action he deemed necessary, he had a VERY brief press conference and said only that DMC was a good kid but that he had stepped over a line. He refused to answer any further questions by the media folks trying desperately to put words into his mouth.

Next move belongs to George, IMHO. What will Karl say during the pre-game tomorrow? Will he say it's an internal matter (as he should) or will he choose to pick at the scab?

I hate all this drama. As I just said on Twitter, I am Kings fan. I know this is a fact. What I don't know is why I'm still a fan...
 
biltalent

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Conflicting reports:
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
DeMarcus Cousins continued to vent at George Karl after the in-game confrontation, per sources. Got into it w/GM Vlade Divac, too.

Blake Ellington ‏@BlakeEllington
Vlade Divac admitted the Cousins suspension was related to the incident between Karl and Cousins on the bench last night.
 
LPKingsFan

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biltalent said:
Conflicting reports:
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
DeMarcus Cousins continued to vent at George Karl after the in-game confrontation, per sources. Got into it w/GM Vlade Divac, too.

Blake Ellington ‏@BlakeEllington
Vlade Divac admitted the Cousins suspension was related to the incident between Karl and Cousins on the bench last night.
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Those do not necessarily conflict.
 
biltalent

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Sean Cunningham ‏@SeanCunningham
Kings coach George Karl is expecting to be back for Friday's game despite procedure. Says he's fine.

This was immediately after the announcement of the suspension. Good timing George :p
 
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Glenn said:
It is interesting that Cuz was complaining that Karl didn't defend him. Karl can barely speak.
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He could nudge an assistant and get them out there. I'm not excusing what DMC did, but I myself have been frustrated at the lack of support our coaching staff shows our players in regard to bad calls, etc.
 
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biltalent said:
Conflicting reports:
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
DeMarcus Cousins continued to vent at George Karl after the in-game confrontation, per sources. Got into it w/GM Vlade Divac, too.

Blake Ellington ‏@BlakeEllington
Vlade Divac admitted the Cousins suspension was related to the incident between Karl and Cousins on the bench last night.
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I'd believe Ellington before I believed Chris Mannix. NOBODY else has said anything about DMC getting into it with Vlade, and I'm pretty sure that would have been bigger news. Everybody likes Vlade.
 
steelevt

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Great. Just in time for the easy part of the schedule. :rolleyes: Couldn't suspend him to send a message when we played the Spurs thunder or cavs? I'm sure this isn't the first time he yelled at Karl.
 
Glenn

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biltalent said:
Conflicting reports:
Chris Mannix ‏@ChrisMannixYS
DeMarcus Cousins continued to vent at George Karl after the in-game confrontation, per sources. Got into it w/GM Vlade Divac, too.

Blake Ellington ‏@BlakeEllington
Vlade Divac admitted the Cousins suspension was related to the incident between Karl and Cousins on the bench last night.
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I will bet money that Vlade and Boogie interacted in a friendly if not fatherly way. I cannot for the life of me imagine Boogie attacking Vlade.
 
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Glenn said:
It is interesting that Cuz was complaining that Karl didn't defend him. Karl can barely speak.
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Those are my thoughts as well. It seems Boogie has been mad about that through out the season. But he should know by now that Karl can't speak much anymore, hence, the delegation to his assistants.
 
Iced Espresso

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Just a little insight with technicals some of you guys may find interesting, I think Cousins has 16 this season.

Vlade led the league in playoff techs in 01-02
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/fouls/sort/technicalFouls/year/2002/seasontype/3

had 11 in regular season 03-04
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/fouls/sort/technicalFouls/year/2004

had 12 in 01-02
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/fouls/sort/technicalFouls/year/2002

Probably another year or two you can reference.

The way things are remembered is interesting over time, I'm pretty sure Vlade has a decent idea on referee irritation and how it goes in the locker room.
 
Albatros

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Glenn said:
I will bet money that Vlade and Boogie interacted in a friendly if not fatherly way. I cannot for the life of me imagine Boogie attacking Vlade.
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hmm, honestly I can see him getting into it verbally with just about anyone. Some of the time I don't blame him, some of the time I can't understand what goes on in his mind.
 
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Boogie is losing his mind under frustration of losses if he is expecting an old man with throat cancer is suppose to yell at the refs on his behalf. Give me a break you big baby.

WAAHHHHH....the coach won't argue on my behalf to the refs for dubious call that upon review on instant replay proves the ref was right and the player was wrong......WAAAAHHHHHH

Every time Boogie flips his lid and they show the play over which said lid was flipped it always shows the defender is just standing there and being vertical. Defenders are entitled to the position on the floor.

And by the way Boogie is second in the NBA in free throws by 0.1 to James Harden (10.6 to 10.5) so his victim complex with the officials is a delusion.

Baby needs his bottle.

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kupman

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VF21 said:
As much as I respect Boogie's talent, I can fully understand this suspension. He's a professional athlete and he needs to act like one. I sincerely hope this sends the message to Cousins that as good as he is, he needs to control his outbursts. My signature says it all...without the anger and frustration rearing its ugly head, DMC would be unstoppable. He is, at times, his own worst enemy...
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Boogie behaves like this on a fairly steady basis. The message has been sent many times over the years. He looses his head and behaves unprofessionally to the detriment of himself and the team. It became a predictable part of him as a player quite some time ago. Yes, without the anger and frustration he would be unstoppable. However, that is not the reality of the situation and it is unlikely to be a reality any time soon imo. This is the primary reason DMC is trade-able. His lack of emotional control could be a significant liability in pressure situations if we were ever able to be good enough to find ourselves in pressure-filled situations.

I am not sure we want to continue to build our team on a foundation that emotionally cracks with regularity.
 
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kupman said:
Boogie behaves like this on a fairly steady basis. The message has been sent many times over the years. He looses his head and behaves unprofessionally to the detriment of himself and the team. It became a predictable part of him as a player quite some time ago. Yes, without the anger and frustration he would be unstoppable. However, that is not the reality of the situation and it is unlikely to be a reality any time soon imo. This is the primary reason DMC is trade-able. His lack of emotional control could be a significant liability in pressure situations if we were ever able to be good enough to find ourselves in pressure-filled situations.

I am not sure we want to continue to build our team on a foundation that emotionally cracks with regularity.
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I'm not going to continue on that tangent for the simple reason I feel strongly that IF our whole franchise wasn't a crappot of chaos, a lot of the things that do anger and frustrate Boogie wouldn't even be a topic for discussion.
 
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Blob said:
Boogie is losing his mind under frustration of losses if he is expecting an old man with throat cancer is suppose to yell at the refs on his behalf. Give me a break you big baby.

WAAHHHHH....the coach won't argue on my behalf to the refs for dubious call that upon review on instant replay proves the ref was right and the player was wrong......WAAAAHHHHHH

Every time Boogie flips his lid and they show the play over which said lid was flipped it always shows the defender is just standing there and being vertical. Defenders are entitled to the position on the floor.

And by the way Boogie is second in the NBA in free throws by 0.1 to James Harden (10.6 to 10.5) so his victim complex with the officials is a delusion.

Baby needs his bottle.

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FYI - From what's been said, it wasn't a call about him that put DMC over the edge. It was about a teammate. But don't let that spoil your childish rant.
 
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