[Game] Kings v. Pelicans - 1/13/16 - 7 PT, 10 ET

gunks

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We'll have to agree to disagree there, VF.

I think Vivek is definitely still a part of the problem.

Buuuuut, if it's really THAT annoying, I'll keep my yap shut about it (all while quietly awaiting the time when i can gloat with the "I told you sos"... muhahaha).
 
Not sure how in Gods name Ben is still starting

i wasn't able to watch the game, but im quite sure that i shouldn't. I realize he isn't even CLOSE to being our main issue, but Jesus Christ ...
 
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones
Karl said of the Kings' basic defensive concepts: "We're not supposed to come off the three ball."
That's really hard to believe because the players do it every single game on every single play. I'm going to go ahead and call Karl a liar on this because it's clearly part of his defensive scheme, you know the one that let Collison guard Nowitizki in crunch time.
 
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones
Karl said of the Kings' basic defensive concepts: "We're not supposed to come off the three ball."
coulda freakin fooled me

looks like we're constantly playing some screwed up version of a zone defense. How bout making some adjustments or completely changing this so called
"scheme"? He's been coaching for 40 damn years and can't think of something else? please.
 
Jason Jones ‏@mr_jasonjones
Karl said of the Kings' basic defensive concepts: "We're not supposed to come off the three ball."
That quote is really taken out of the context of what he really said. Watch the original part here:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/kings/karl-admits-kings-got-kicked-one-particular-area

He says that Cunningham, Davis and Cole didnt shot the 3 well before the game. He admits that the pick and roll defense lead to open 3s. Later he says that for him the first priority will always be containing the basketball and stopping takes to the basket, then covering the 3.
 
Not sure how in Gods name Ben is still starting

i wasn't able to watch the game, but im quite sure that i shouldn't. I realize he isn't even CLOSE to being our main issue, but Jesus Christ ...
He only played 7mins tonight in the beginning of the game. He was pulled when the game was around 10-10 tied.. never came back after that.

Spoiler Alert...Kings gave up a ton of 3s tonight.
 
He only played 7mins tonight in the beginning of the game. He was pulled when the game was around 10-10 tied.. never came back after that.

Spoiler Alert...Kings gave up a ton of 3s tonight.
Ben's bench cheering IQ is too low. His lack of aggressive towel waiving clearly cost us tons of open threes.
 
Later he says that for him the first priority will always be containing the basketball and stopping takes to the basket, then covering the 3.

Doesn't that prove that the game has passed him by? This is a 3 point shooting league and Karl insists on stopping the ball from getting to the basket first, ultimately ending up in someone being wide open for a 3.
 
Doesn't that prove that the game has passed him by? This is a 3 point shooting league and Karl insists on stopping the ball from getting to the basket first, ultimately ending up in someone being wide open for a 3.
In some way yes. What I don't agree with is that he makes it seem like you have to choose on or the other. The Bulls defense proved for many years that you can stop the ball from going to the rim while also not giving up open 3s. The trick is to not even get in to a scrambling situation where you have to chose between giving up a lay up and a 3. But we're in such a situation after every pick and roll because every time we need a third defender to help and leave his man.
 
In some way yes. What I don't agree with is that he makes it seem like you have to choose on or the other. The Bulls defense proved for many years that you can stop the ball from going to the rim while also not giving up open 3s. The trick is to not even get in to a scrambling situation where you have to chose between giving up a lay up and a 3. But we're in such a situation after every pick and roll because every time we need a third defender to help and leave his man.
We have an excellent pick and roll defender in WCS , we just don't use him . Sigh
 
Not sure how in Gods name Ben is still starting

i wasn't able to watch the game, but im quite sure that i shouldn't. I realize he isn't even CLOSE to being our main issue, but Jesus Christ ...
He played, what, seven minutes last night? Hard to say he was a primary culprit.

Maybe you can say indirectly, because he doesn't add much on offense so Karl plays Belli (a defensive disaster instead).

But I'd look more to Gay (-19) and Rondo (-17)...

http://popcornmachine.net/bs?date=20160113&game=NORSAC