When Rondo and Collison are both on the floor, DC controls the ball way too much. The one time Rondo got the ball early into possession ended with Collison making a three, which should be the default setup, because when DC is on the ball, Kings have useless C&S player in the lineup, who is not good to score inside, which means Kings play 4-on-5 offense -Karl got Vivek's idea backwards. Anyway Rondo/Collison/Gay/Cousins lineup has 4 guys, whose primary instinct to control the ball/create - way too many cooks. And then he puts in Belli to look for scoring as well. Karl's previous 2-PG lineups worked, because he had 3 other players comfortable playing off-the-ball.