Kings trade JT, Nik and Landry to Sixers (renamed)
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Exactly! Free agency just isn't a realistic option for us. Not enough money to overpay anyone and could perhaps be thought of as the worst destination in the league right now. It was hard enough to convince players to come here before this mess.
Trading is the only to change this roster and I just don't see how we do it.
Trading is the only to change this roster and I just don't see how we do it.
Unless they are playing the Kings, I'm rooting for the Spurs to smack down the Warriors. That is a hell of a franchise over there.
I wish Vlade could snag some unknown junior exec from there (like the nerd in Moneyball). Those guys just really know what they are doing. And if you've ever been in San Antonio in summer you know that the place just sucks to high heaven with the sweat and Cicada bugs - so to make it a top NBA destination you gotta really have some black magic.
I wish Vlade could snag some unknown junior exec from there (like the nerd in Moneyball). Those guys just really know what they are doing. And if you've ever been in San Antonio in summer you know that the place just sucks to high heaven with the sweat and Cicada bugs - so to make it a top NBA destination you gotta really have some black magic.
Ailene is terrible. Not only the shot at Cousins but she couldn't even take the time to figure out Dennis Schroder's name, tweeted that the Kings are interested in "the Hawks backup PG" 
Collison fixes the bench, don't you see my friend? He's absolutely the best bench PG we could get. He's perfect for it. That's where the real fit works. And, we absolutely need perimeter defense at the PG position. We also need a distributor who doesn't need shots. We have 1-3 offensive weapons accounted for (Ben being third). I think we ask Ben to really step up, and with two fantastic passers (Cuz and Rondo) in the lineup... that's how it can work. If WCS can have a decent mid range shot... we're actually an excellent shooting team. Best shooting center in the league, passable shooting 4, good shooting from Gay, and possible top 10 shooter in Ben, if he can take another step and get wide open looks from Cuz passouts and Rondo creating.
I can see it being an excellent fit with Rondo, and an even BETTER fit with Collison leading the bench.
I can see it being an excellent fit with Rondo, and an even BETTER fit with Collison leading the bench.
Because one of his best friends in the league is on our team... because he'll be playing with, according to him, the best young player in the game, because he wants to be here and sees a future. He didn't have that in Boston towards the end or even in Dallas.
Rondo is a hard headed winner. He doesn't play for a paycheck, but plays, like Cuz, to win. For players like that, fit, leadership, proper usage, and team-wide buy in toward a common goal are key. To me, he is an excellent candidate to pull a Rudy Gay and all the sudden come back to form, and better, when in the right situation. HE WANTS TO BE HERE.
Rondo is a hard headed winner. He doesn't play for a paycheck, but plays, like Cuz, to win. For players like that, fit, leadership, proper usage, and team-wide buy in toward a common goal are key. To me, he is an excellent candidate to pull a Rudy Gay and all the sudden come back to form, and better, when in the right situation. HE WANTS TO BE HERE.
Talentwise collison would be a great bench player. But he played well as a starter and I don't see a reason he needs to be replaced. How would you like being sent to the bench after you were brought in to start and played well. Then the team goes and signs someone who had a horrible season on a 1 year deal (meaning he will prob leave next season) and give him the spot. I would see ZERO loyalty from the front office. This plus how they treated malone...another reason free agents would avoid sac.
Compiling a list of what I'll term the fresh leftovers. Players that won't be chased with big money, but will likely be left after all the big cap space is gone. I've filtered out any players that don't fit the PG/wing types that Vlade seems to be targeting. I don't know all these players that well. Namely, I don't know the defensive level of all of them. If others want to chip in some analysis, please do.
John Jenkins - G
Alan Anderson -G/F
Leandro Barbosa - G
Corey Brewer - G/F
Rodney Stuckey - G
Austin Rivers - G
Jeremy Lin - PG
Wesley Johnson - F
Gary Neal - G
Gerald Green - G
Far more guards than swingmen.
John Jenkins - G
Alan Anderson -G/F
Leandro Barbosa - G
Corey Brewer - G/F
Rodney Stuckey - G
Austin Rivers - G
Jeremy Lin - PG
Wesley Johnson - F
Gary Neal - G
Gerald Green - G
Far more guards than swingmen.
I like the Beverly fit. We don't need a creator at the 1, just someone who can get the ball in to cuz and hit open shots. Combine that with an affordable price tag and him being the best defensive pg in the league and we're talking. He has interest from several teams, however so we'd have to overpay probably. Also im not sure you can start him over collison. How much of his elite defensiveness is given up if he's guarding sg? Theres a dearth of full sized sg in the league right now so you could potentially run collison and him together, but youd still need pg depth if you did that.
We know that simply adding WCS is not going to turn our sorry 29 win team into a playoff team. So either we waste our last years with Boogie and watch him walk (or force his way out), or we try and build a team around him. Could things go south with Rondo? No doubt. But things will be much worse if Cousins leaves. We are talking complete rebuild again. I think you absolutely have to gamble to build a winner around Cousins.
Dallas was a title contender before he got there. Did talked big game about that to even said his defense would be phenomenal. Said he hadn't played defense for years in Boston but now it would change we saw how that ended up.
It's cool he's friends with Gay and like cousins. But what happens when Karl benches him cause teams will pack the paint vs a team starting WCS/Rondo. Karl's already on thin ice with the players Rondo will start a war in the locker room when his minuets decrease.
It's cool he's friends with Gay and like cousins. But what happens when Karl benches him cause teams will pack the paint vs a team starting WCS/Rondo. Karl's already on thin ice with the players Rondo will start a war in the locker room when his minuets decrease.
If he was so excited to come here, to play with his friend and to play with a young great player like Cousins, then why was he so against coming here at last year's trade deadline? We had Gay and Cousins at the time. He didn't want to come here and made it clear he would not re-sign if traded here.
Now he is so excited to come here, why? He needs us, his career has gone from playoff hero to a guy who was voted out of a playoff bonus by his teammates. The Kings are the greatest now! Make no mistake, he indeed plays for a paycheck and he likes things his way. I'm not saying he doesn't play hard, he probably will, but his attitude will come through eventually and it can destroy teams. Combine that with the delicate Cousins situation and this could turn into a huge problem.
Now he is so excited to come here, why? He needs us, his career has gone from playoff hero to a guy who was voted out of a playoff bonus by his teammates. The Kings are the greatest now! Make no mistake, he indeed plays for a paycheck and he likes things his way. I'm not saying he doesn't play hard, he probably will, but his attitude will come through eventually and it can destroy teams. Combine that with the delicate Cousins situation and this could turn into a huge problem.
"I thought there was a strong possibility that I wouldn't be back," Green said in a telephone interview with ESPN.com. "But the Spurs found a way to offer me something nice."
He got what he thought was a fair offer from the place that makes him the happiest. No need to shop around. Such is the power of the model franchise.
He got what he thought was a fair offer from the place that makes him the happiest. No need to shop around. Such is the power of the model franchise.
This. I mean really.
He has all the defense Rondo could (potentially) give you and he can shoot at the league average from 3 and FT. He's younger and got to experience (albeit from the bench) what his team had to do to make a fairly deep playoff run. He's likely to command what we would pay Rondo, though over more years hopefully. Let him and Collison battle it out for the starting position. With the right matchups you can play them together.
He has all the defense Rondo could (potentially) give you and he can shoot at the league average from 3 and FT. He's younger and got to experience (albeit from the bench) what his team had to do to make a fairly deep playoff run. He's likely to command what we would pay Rondo, though over more years hopefully. Let him and Collison battle it out for the starting position. With the right matchups you can play them together.
Totally different situation with Malone. Collison is a team guy. The stated goal of the team MUST be to win a champoinship, and Vlade (good leadership) must hold that vision, with authority. So the question for Collison becomes "do I want to be a starter on a playoff team or do I want to do everything I can to win a championship". If it's yes to the former and no to the latter, we don't want him anyway. But I have a feeling he is a yes to the latter type player, which is why we signed him in the first place (Malone's work btw). He's not about personal glory, he's about team glory. He's not getting fired, he's getting the same amount of money, only this time with a better chance to win it all.