Jimmer to be bought out

#1
Curious to see if he'll get picked up by anyone. Good on the Kings for letting him test the market and try to earn play time somewhere rather than rot on a bench for the rest of the year.
 
#3
Good for Jimmer. Although I think its a mistake to let him go at this point considering Ray has shown nothing.
It's only really a mistake if someone goes down with injury. Even then, the goal for the Kings is to teach their young guys and hopefully they can contribute next year. Jimmer is really, really not part of that equation.
 
#4
Curious to see if he'll get picked up by anyone. Good on the Kings for letting him test the market and try to earn play time somewhere rather than rot on a bench for the rest of the year.
I agree it is a good move to let Jimmer go look for a spot on another team. I think he will get picked up by another team.
 
#5
It's only really a mistake if someone goes down with injury. Even then, the goal for the Kings is to teach their young guys and hopefully they can contribute next year. Jimmer is really, really not part of that equation.
Yeah I understand, I just think its strange they are willing to give up on him considering the strides he has made in his game.
 
#7
Jimmer's a great guy and he has just such a sweet stroke. I remember watching his first game as a King and just cringing... just simply didnt look comfortable or ready to be out there. Proud to have seen him progress and improve the way he has. I can definitely see him contributing on a contender, and I sincerely hope he gets that chance.
 
#9
So this means all the Jimmer maniacs will be gone soon? Great move PDA!

Anyways, it's good for him. I'm sure he can find a spot on the right team, he's a great shooter and someone will find the right way to use him. Good luck Jimmer!
 
#10
So this means all the Jimmer maniacs will be gone soon? Great move PDA!

Anyways, it's good for him. I'm sure he can find a spot on the right team, he's a great shooter and someone will find the right way to use him. Good luck Jimmer!
Some of us will stick around for the Cousins and Co. Really, though, this board is one of the smartest basketball forums I've encountered. I'm not going to disappear.
 
#12
Some of us will stick around for the Cousins and Co. Really, though, this board is one of the smartest basketball forums I've encountered. I'm not going to disappear.
I know Hadlowe, it wasn't referred to you, but you know there are many people in this forum who are here just because of Jimmer.
 
#13
Yeah I understand, I just think its strange they are willing to give up on him considering the strides he has made in his game.
It really wasn't about how he played on the court, at least not this year. It was a lot more about the guys that the current administration brought it. If you sign a player you have a vested interest in making sure that player plays even if it is at the expense of the team or other players on contract. If you jump around like a little girl on draft day then you better damn well have a good reason. If that player needs to "play through his mistakes" then you give him all the leeway in the world to prove that you were right.
 
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jdbraver

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#14
I don't get it. Why don't we just buy out Outlaw and JT and Acy or Evans, and terry then. What's so special about jimmer. I'm sure the other guys would love to be somewhere else.
 

Spike

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#15
Maybe because the FO acknowledges that he could be playing elsewhere, as opposed to being on the bench here? The others you mentioned are getting PT, and contractually they will still be useful this offseason/next season, whereas Jimmer is an ender.
 
#16
It could go several ways for Jimmer. I think the two most likely are he becomes a contending teams "Steve Kerr" or a coach "features" him runs him off a lot of picks and he gets his own version of "Linsanity". He has got it in him to score 20 every night in the right system.
 
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jdbraver

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#17
Maybe because the FO acknowledges that he could be playing elsewhere, as opposed to being on the bench here? The others you mentioned are getting PT, and contractually they will still be useful this offseason/next season, whereas Jimmer is an ender.
Ok, what about Acy tho. There are a slew of PF looking for min now?
 
#19
kind of weird to buy a young guy out that is going to be a RFA, I don't know the last time that happened. I could possibly see the Celtics as a dark horse team for Jimmer's services. Danny Ainge was high on him around draft time, Celtics would probably let Jimmer be the backup to Rondo from day 1. It would be basically a tryout for the rest of the season for him. Not likely signing in Boston but would be a good spot for him
 
#21
Ok, what about Acy tho. There are a slew of PF looking for min now?
Acy is super super cheap. You don't give up cheap players that give you something. You fill out a roster with those kind if hustle guys. We've got acy and Evans. Both cheap. When/if they get rid of JT, Evans/acy will make more sense. That's just speculation but that's the direction things are heading.

Acy has a team option, yes? Jimmers option was declined in the offseason.

They can still cut acy if they choose to. There wasn't much left to do with jimmer other than move on. Decision was made already. Jimmer wasn't signing here for a huge paycut.
 

Bricklayer

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#22
you would have to say this move is made because its better for Jimmer, not us. Ray obviously has shown nothing, we remain incredibly vulnerable to an IT injury with essentially no proven NBA players to take over. But once we couldn't secure even a 2nd rnd pick for him at the deadline, and the decision was made to play guys regardless of their abilities, then Jimmer was just insurance, and insurance isn't greater than his need to get himself established in the league before he has to hit the summer not having played in the 2nd half of the season.
 
#23
kind of weird to buy a young guy out that is going to be a RFA, I don't know the last time that happened. I could possibly see the Celtics as a dark horse team for Jimmer's services. Danny Ainge was high on him around draft time, Celtics would probably let Jimmer be the backup to Rondo from day 1. It would be basically a tryout for the rest of the season for him. Not likely signing in Boston but would be a good spot for him
I don't see basement teams (other than the Knicks who may be entirely without point guards) reaching for him. I don't know that Boston would be a good fit for him either, as he needs to be playing off of star players in order for his skillset to be of any value. Put him next to an elite slashing wing and/or a dominant big man and the extra 3-5 feet of floor spacing he gives you is worth something.
 
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jdbraver

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#24
So what is the benefit to the Kings? We save money if someone picks him up? We are deemed nice for letting him go?
 
#25
So what is the benefit to the Kings? We save money if someone picks him up? We are deemed nice for letting him go?
With a buyout, you don't save money if someone else picks him up, but you can negotiate a lower price to get him off the roster.

As far as being deemed nice for letting him go, that's not nothing. The Kings need to be seen as a good player management team to agents and other players if they want any chance of attracting talent in free agency. Letting Jimmer sign somewhere else when he isn't wanted on the team is a good karmic move that hopefully pays dividends down the road.
 
#26
you would have to say this move is made because its better for Jimmer, not us. Ray obviously has shown nothing, we remain incredibly vulnerable to an IT injury with essentially no proven NBA players to take over. But once we couldn't secure even a 2nd rnd pick for him at the deadline, and the decision was made to play guys regardless of their abilities, then Jimmer was just insurance, and insurance isn't greater than his need to get himself established in the league before he has to hit the summer not having played in the 2nd half of the season.
Agreed.... They did Jimmer a solid. Apparently new management has a philosophy of doing good unto others. It also should confirm, although I don't know how you could deny otherwise, that Kings aren't playing for wins right now, but for 2 reasons: 1) evaluate talent & give young guys a chance to grow, 2) build chemistry among the guys still here
 
#28
I'm disappointed they couldn't trade him for anything.
Cowbell Kingdom had a rumor that the Heat offered a second rounder and PDA turned them down. If it's true, that was a mistake by the front office. Now they get the privilege of paying money to see him play elsewhere.
 
#29
hm. bit of an unceremonious end to this whole thing, innit? what a waste of a top-10 pick...

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that said, i feel for jimmer. he got leapfrogged by a 60th pick during his rookie season, and now he's been bought out in his third year, presumably to make room for a 36th pick to get more minutes. that's not exactly a helpful resume-building experience, i have to imagine. this is the best thing for jimmer, of course, because he was going to rot on the bench otherwise. but it's yet another signal that the tank is on, despite a two-game winning streak. why give court time to an improving jimmer when you can "develop" a raw rookie in the occasional stretch when coach malone decides to park isaiah thomas for a few?

i dunno... i was never jimmer's biggest fan, but malone certainly didn't do the front office any favors by refusing to give jimmer consistent minutes off the bench after greivis vasquez was traded and the kings had no PG rotation to speak of. in that situation, i think PDA has to step in and tell coach to give jimmer a solid 15 minutes per game in advance of the trade deadline. clearly, he has improved. he has some value, however minor, around the league, but because jimmer was left in no-man's-land, the kings couldn't even get a second-rounder out of him...

they're buying him out as a "favor" because they mismanaged their opportunity to trade him or package him as part of a larger deal. it's not a noteworthy error by any stretch of the imagination, and it won't matter in the grand scheme of things, but, after the carl landry signing, i remain suspicious of the new regime's ability to properly manage its assets. as kings fans, we've put up with our fair share of mismanagement in the last half-decade or more. i'd hate to see new patterns develop along those lines...

edit:
Cowbell Kingdom had a rumor that the Heat offered a second rounder and PDA turned them down. If it's true, that was a mistake by the front office. Now they get the privilege of paying money to see him play elsewhere.
if that's true, it adds a bit more weight to my concerns...
 
#30
you would have to say this move is made because its better for Jimmer, not us. Ray obviously has shown nothing, we remain incredibly vulnerable to an IT injury with essentially no proven NBA players to take over. But once we couldn't secure even a 2nd rnd pick for him at the deadline, and the decision was made to play guys regardless of their abilities, then Jimmer was just insurance, and insurance isn't greater than his need to get himself established in the league before he has to hit the summer not having played in the 2nd half of the season.
It might not have been the best basketball decision because it leaves you vulnerable to an IT injury but was the right thing to do on a personal level. Glad to see them cut Jimmer free.