When Adelman leaves - a different perspective

VF21

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We all know that sooner or later Rick Adelman will cease to be the coach of the Sacramento Kings. That's a given, whether you're happy with his performance so far or strongly wish he had left years ago.

When he does leave, I sincerely hope people will be fair about just how much he has done for the players, the fans, and the franchise.

People may not always agree with his decisions. They may think his rotations are too short at critical times; they may decry his hesitation to put starters on the bench if they're not playing up to our expectations.

What people should agree on - and I can't understand why they don't - is that Rick Adelman is a big part of what made our team so much fun and so exciting to watch these last years.

It wasn't an accident that, despite debilitating injuries, our team was still competitive. It wasn't just luck that got players to perform better here than anywhere else they'd ever played. It wasn't happenstance that the Kings won 50+ games every year, even when things looked pretty bleak.

NBA coaching isn't easy. If it were, everyone would be lining up to do it and you wouldn't see a very small pool of coaches shuffled from team to team. A successful NBA coach (and 700 wins is indicative of success, regardless of anything else) is a rare commodity and one that should be treasured and appreciated. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized. IMHO you can criticize someone while still acknowledging their stature and status within their field.

Just like some people were very anxious to see Webber leave, some are now convinced that firing Adelman is the solution to the Kings' woes. That may or may not be true for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons is that it just might simply be time to change the vision from the top, to alter how the philosophy behind the game is carried out.

All I ask is that people show some respect to the man and what he has accomplished so far AND what he still might accomplish for us in the future.

I honestly think he's earned that respect.
 
My aunt's husband would whole heartily disagree. He thinks that Rick Adelman is a piece of crap coach. However, he has his own reasons on hating him. He isn't a huge Kings fan, nor a basketball fan for that matter (he says the sport of basketball has severely declined over the years and some other remarks that if I were to say would get me banned), but he does have good reasons. However, he has lived in Fairfeld (near Sacramento) for most of his life and he was a pretty solid Kings fan, but since he doesn't follow the sport anymore, he's lost interest. He still keeps up with them when I bring them up or even watches the games with me when I watch them.

Nevertheless, I am a basketball fan, and more importantly, a Kings fan. No matter what anyone says about Adelman, he was part of something special that we all knew couldn't last. We were hoping that somewhere along the line that a championship would've been won, but sadly, that wasn't the case.

I, for one, love Rick Adelman and everything he has done for the Sacramento Kings. He deserves all the credit in the world for all the great times the Kings have enjoyed, but at the same time all the bad times. I can't just place the blame on him since everyone on the Kings has basically put something in the pot of failure.

On the other hand, it’s too to say goodbye. Adelman has one more year to maybe turn this team around and take the Kings closer to the promise land. I say that we as fans should allow him to work with what he is given next year and see what happens. I'm sure if he wins a championship next year, we'll see more of Adelman for many years to come.
 
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VF21 said:
We all know that sooner or later Rick Adelman will cease to be the coach of the Sacramento Kings. That's a given, whether you're happy with his performance so far or strongly wish he had left years ago.

When he does leave, I sincerely hope people will be fair about just how much he has done for the players, the fans, and the franchise.

People may not always agree with his decisions. They may think his rotations are too short at critical times; they may decry his hesitation to put starters on the bench if they're not playing up to our expectations.

What people should agree on - and I can't understand why they don't - is that Rick Adelman is a big part of what made our team so much fun and so exciting to watch these last years.

It wasn't an accident that, despite debilitating injuries, our team was still competitive. It wasn't just luck that got players to perform better here than anywhere else they'd ever played. It wasn't happenstance that the Kings won 50+ games every year, even when things looked pretty bleak.

NBA coaching isn't easy. If it were, everyone would be lining up to do it and you wouldn't see a very small pool of coaches shuffled from team to team. A successful NBA coach (and 700 wins is indicative of success, regardless of anything else) is a rare commodity and one that should be treasured and appreciated. That doesn't mean he shouldn't be criticized. IMHO you can criticize someone while still acknowledging their stature and status within their field.

Just like some people were very anxious to see Webber leave, some are now convinced that firing Adelman is the solution to the Kings' woes. That may or may not be true for a variety of reasons. One of those reasons is that it just might simply be time to change the vision from the top, to alter how the philosophy behind the game is carried out.

All I ask is that people show some respect to the man and what he has accomplished so far AND what he still might accomplish for us in the future.

I honestly think he's earned that respect.

In all honesty Rick has done well with the pieces that were given to him at times, but I feel its time for a change. We no longer have the pieces to run the type of offense Rick and his crew are accustomed to. We dont have that great passing big man. Its time for a drastic change.
 
VF21 said:
Isn't your aunt's husband your uncle?

technically yes, but it doesn't always seem like it. For example, my uncle only 8 years older than me (my mom is the oldest of 8 kids). He married a woman about 6 years ago, and she is technically my aunt. However, since I didn't meet her until I was 25, and she is only 4 years older than me, I would never call her my aunt.
 
VF21 said:
Isn't your aunt's husband your uncle?

I'm Armenian, so I always wondered what to refer to my aunt's husband since we have a word for it in the Armenian language, therefore I didn't use the word uncle. Also, since uncle means your mother's brother, I didn't think it would mean the same thing. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I've been wondering how many years know what word to use.
 
VF21 said:
What people should agree on - and I can't understand why they don't - is that Rick Adelman is a big part of what made our team so much fun and so exciting to watch these last years.
I don't think anyone - well, most people - would disagree with you there. Actually, you haven't really said much. Yes, he was a part of our success - and we got to the WCF, so obviously it was a good team he was a part of. I guess if you want to argue about the meaning of "big," but other than that...
As far as if he's a good coach, or if we might have won it all with someone else...that's another matter entirely.
Not to mention...is he a good coach for the team we have now?
 
i wonder if pete carril would evr have wanted to resign if he foresaw the changes in the kings...i remember a few months ago him saying that he wanted to stay on the kings because of geoff petrie....now though it seems like the team bilt for carril's offense has pretty much been dismantled.
 
I think RA has done a good job. He has put this team in posititon to win year after year. He's done so well I think he has earned a promotion to the front office. So, whenever
the time comes to make the change make it easy on eveyone. Petrie can promote his friend to work along side of him and doesn't have to fire him.
 
For some reason, many people seem to suffer a form of temporary amnesia when discussing Adelman. They seem to forget the heartbreaking injuries suffered by key players on this team time and time again. Not since we went to the WCF has Adelman had even a reasonably healthy and tuned roster. I think he's made the best of what he has been given. VERY few coaches could have done what he has done. How many would have had such success building an offense around a middle aged, slowing center, who just happened to turn dishing dimes into an art form? How many could get their team to the playoffs with huge roster turnover. Minny still has KG, and they can't even make it to the playoffs. Kings dump their only real star (arguable :} ), and several others, and make it to sixth seed! He is far from perfect, but he is better than most.
 
I think Adelman has done a good job,team went to playoff every year and have a chance for ring,thats greath.I have watch many greath and excitable games.Kings are showed a showtime basket like noone in a past 10-15 years,i realy mised that times :(
But one part of history of Kings are pass and time is for change,i want to thanks Rick for 8 greath(sad and happy) years and wish him luck(if he live the Kings) in a future career.
 
Sparky said:
For some reason, many people seem to suffer a form of temporary amnesia when discussing Adelman. They seem to forget the heartbreaking injuries suffered by key players on this team time and time again. Not since we went to the WCF has Adelman had even a reasonably healthy and tuned roster. I think he's made the best of what he has been given. VERY few coaches could have done what he has done. How many would have had such success building an offense around a middle aged, slowing center, who just happened to turn dishing dimes into an art form? How many could get their team to the playoffs with huge roster turnover. Minny still has KG, and they can't even make it to the playoffs. Kings dump their only real star (arguable :} ), and several others, and make it to sixth seed! He is far from perfect, but he is better than most.


Yes its all truth,but he never succeed to make a final step,it is a substantially what the Kings want a Ring or just PO every year.
 
kperica said:
I don't think anyone - well, most people - would disagree with you there. Actually, you haven't really said much. Yes, he was a part of our success - and we got to the WCF, so obviously it was a good team he was a part of. I guess if you want to argue about the meaning of "big," but other than that...
As far as if he's a good coach, or if we might have won it all with someone else...that's another matter entirely.
Not to mention...is he a good coach for the team we have now?

I said what I wanted to say. If you find it lacking, feel free to elaborate.

:rolleyes:

I think I made my point well enough - at least everyone else seems to have understood.

There is another thread discussing whether or not Rick Adelman is a good coach for the team we have now. That is NOT the point I was making.
 
Raci said:
I think Adelman has done a good job,team went to playoff every year and have a chance for ring,thats greath.I have watch many greath and QUOTE]

OMG. on all the other threads about RA you said that he wasn't a playoff coach and that you wanted him to be fired since '03. now you say this:confused: .

and you don't need the "h" with the word "great";)
 
There is another thread discussing whether or not Rick Adelman is a good coach for the team we have now. That is NOT the point I was making.

Sorry, I digressed.

Well, I will say that I don't want anyone with the last name of Van Gundy - Yeesh. I would want a coach familiar with Western Conference play. Fast paced, run the court and pass the ball. No Eastern molasses - ball. I think RA's "problem" if it is a problem, is that he expects players to be competent professionals. He does not micromanage. It creates a style of play that, when done properly, is beautiful, fluid, and effective. I like that style and would like to see it again.
 
I have to agree with VF

Adleman is just as important as the players that have passed through this organization. Most of them all say there best years were here. I think that pretty much tells you how much respect they have for the coach and organization. RA gets beat up way more then he deserves. I am sure he is more upset about the way this season is ending then we are.

Of course you have your OP’s, (was he even hear during RA days? I am to lazy to look it up I forgot), Tmass and JJames as one of the few that have had bad things to say. All the others that leave or get traded always say Sacramento was the best place they played at/for/in.

RA I am still on your bandwagon. I think you did the best you could this year. You did more with less then other coaches with more. LOL that kind of came out funny  LOL
 
I really can't think of another coach that will take Sacramento under their wings and make it something worth watching as Adelman did. We love him, we hate him--isn't that how it is with this Kings and fans relationship? Every player and every staff member of the Kings, every moment... we just want to win it all. But unfortunately there is only one champion each year. Adeleman has brought us close many times, and changed this franchise into a contending one, and I'm glad what he done since he been in Sacramento. I'm glad what he has done this year. I'm glad what he has done so far in this Sonics/Kings play-off series. I would not want Adelman to leave, he means everything to this organization. No, he has not brought us championships (only few can say they've done so), but for one thing, I'm a fan of basketball and a fan of the Kings, for the sole reason that they are soo entertaining to watch. It's a ongoing drama. We have our good times and bad, but oh boi, it's one hell of a ride that I do not want to stop.

We can argue who we would want to be in the place of Adelman or any player of the Kings roster, we can wish and hope for this and that to happen, but really guys... this is what we have, the Kings. Instead of playing GM, I would rather just support the guys we do have night in, night out. The Kings are Kings now, wether they are here next year or not, wether they win or lose, they are still the Kings. As it goes for Adelman, as long he is on our side of the block, he's got my 100% support. Go Kings!
 
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