Warriors desperation...

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People think the Kings had a bad off-season....man, just take a look at the Warriors...

They are a team that is desperate for some roster adjustments and they have done next to nothing...
 
I'm surprised they haven't signed Bonzi. Guess they want to have starting SF open for Pietrus, or just don't even want him.
 
The Warriors are shooting for the Greg Oden sweepstakes there not looking to make a run next year it seems but they can't even if they wanted to cause the West is tough for there team.
 
TheJoker said:
The Warriors are shooting for the Greg Oden sweepstakes there not looking to make a run next year it seems but they can't even if they wanted to cause the West is tough for there team.
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yeah, the Warriors are 'Worriors', at the moment. Hoping that they have the right ping-pong ball that lands them Mr. Oden. They'll have some money to spend after this year, as well...plus they have team options on re-signing Diagu, Biedrins, Cabarkapa and Pietrus. Dunleavy is a free agent then as well. So Mullin will be a busy man next summer.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
yeah, the Warriors are 'Worriors', at the moment. Hoping that they have the right ping-pong ball that lands them Mr. Oden. They'll have some money to spend after this year, as well...plus they have team options on re-signing Diagu, Biedrins, Cabarkapa and Pietrus. Dunleavy is a free agent then as well. So Mullin will be a busy man next summer.
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I thought Dunleavy signed a fat contract at the beginning of last year?
 
These are the big men the GSW have drafted the past three years:

06'
1st: Patrick O'Bryant 7'0 260 C
2nd: Kosta Perovic 7-2 240 C


05'
1st: Ike Diogu 6-8 255 F
2nd: Chris Taft 6-10 251 F


04'
1st: Andris Biedrins 6-11 245 F-C
2nd: no pick

They're looking like the Knicks of the West, even more so if they trade for AI while Baron is still on the team.
 
If they are smart they'll let Andris develop. He has a chance to be a very solid player. When he got time last year he looked really good.

AI? I don't think so. JRich is an awsome player on what will become a great contract in time, and subtracting him and adding AI does nothing for them on the floor.

And the Warriors aren't going to "have money" for quite awhile. They are pretty much locked up financially for the forseeable future and may lose some ending guys because of that.

As far as trading goes, they also don't have a lot of assets because they gave their players big contracts already. Teams usually want younger guys with smaller/ending deals so they aren't stuck long term if they realize they shouldn't have traded for that player.
 
Circa_1985_Fan said:
yeah, the Warriors are 'Worriors', at the moment. Hoping that they have the right ping-pong ball that lands them Mr. Oden. They'll have some money to spend after this year, as well...plus they have team options on re-signing Diagu, Biedrins, Cabarkapa and Pietrus. Dunleavy is a free agent then as well. So Mullin will be a busy man next summer.
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Actually, Dunleavy signed a 5-year 44 million extension before last season.

OAKLAND, Calif. -- Forward Mike Dunleavy signed a five-year, $44 million contract extension with the Golden State Warriors on Monday, hours before a deadline that would have made him a restricted free agent after the season.

Dunleavy, the third overall pick in the 2002 draft, started 79 games for the Warriors last season, averaging a career-best 13.4 points along with 5.5 rebounds and 2.6 assists per game. He is the sixth member of Golden State's promising young core to sign for at least the next four seasons.

Though he has developed slowly during three losing campaigns in Golden State, the club firmly believes the young forward has better days ahead -- and he returned the feeling by turning down potential free agency.

"I think I'm coming along well," Dunleavy said. "I got off to a rocky start early on. There were a lot of expectations, and they already had a bunch of players at my position. Through that, I've persevered, and I'm well on my way. I'm pleased with where I'm at and where I'm headed."

Dunleavy was a reserve as a rookie, averaging just 5.7 points and playing sparingly for coach Eric Musselman. Dunleavy's average increased to 11.7 points in his second year while he started 69 games, but the forward's solid passing was offset by spotty defense and an inconsistent perimeter game.

He improved quickly and finished strong last season under new coach Mike Montgomery, with 48 percent shooting -- 43 percent on 3-pointers -- over the final 34 games.

Chris Mullin, the Warriors' head of basketball operations, has long viewed Dunleavy as a key complement to Golden State's revamped lineup around Baron Davis. The extension, finalized about six hours before the deadline, capped weeks of negotiations between the Warriors and Dunleavy's agent, Arn Tellem.

"The way Mike performed, the way he conducted himself and the way we run our organization, we both felt it was something that we wanted," Mullin said. "We're still putting together a team and not just individuals. Mike's ability to play with the guys that we have on our roster, along with his age and his development ... are what it's about."

Dunleavy, who will make $4.5 million this season, is the son of Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy. The younger Dunleavy's first purchase with his new paycheck was two season tickets to watch the Warriors, who have sold more than 4,000 new season tickets in anticipation of the new year.

The contract is the latest in a series of hefty deals approved by Warriors owner Chris Cohan, who has been regularly castigated locally for his team's curious management decisions during 11 straight seasons out of the playoffs.

The Warriors now have long-term deals with Dunleavy, Davis, Jason Richardson, Troy Murphy, Derek Fisher and Adonal Foyle totaling roughly $313 million.

"I'm a big person on loyalty," Dunleavy said. "I really wanted to stay here and be here. They made me a very fair offer. I don't think Chris Cohan probably sees this as a discount, but I think it's fair for both sides."

Golden State also announced its opening-night roster for Wednesday's home game against Atlanta, and it included undrafted rookie guard Aaron Miles, the Big 12's career assists leader at Kansas. Injured forward Ike Diogu and fellow rookie Monta Ellis will open the year on the inactive list.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2209616

Horrible deal, lol


Here are the other two extensions they did for Murphy and J-Rich:

The Warriors reached agreement Monday night on extensions for Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy.

Richardson agreed to a six-year deal worth between $70 million and $71 million and Murphy agreed to a six-year, $60 million contract, a source close to the negotiations told ESPN Insider Chad Ford. Both deals were fully guaranteed and contained no deferred money.

Chris Mullin, the new Warriors executive vice president of basketball operations, has now signed more than $200 million worth of contracts this summer in his effort to turn the Warriors into contenders. Earlier this summer, he resigned Adonal Foyle to a five-year, $40 million contract and free agent Derek Fisher to a six-year, $37 million dollar deal.


The Warriors faced a Sunday night deadline to get the extensions done but received extra time from the league and completed the deals Monday afternoon.

"With the talent we have now, and with Troy and Jason, our goal is to make the playoffs," said Mullin, who has been focused on re-signing the two for some time. "If we stay healthy, we have a legitimate shot to do that. ... The plan all along was to re-sign these guys and retain our young talent."

Both players would have been eligible to be restricted free agents after the season if they hadn't signed the extensions.

Golden State opens the season Wednesday night at home against the Portland Trail Blazers.

"I think this is going to make it a lot easier to go out and focus on basketball," said Richardson, who led the Warriors in scoring at 18.7 points last season, while also averaging 6.7 rebounds and 2.9 assists in a team-high 37.6 minutes per game. "We both came in together in 2001 and liked it here, loved the fan base. We believed we could turn this franchise around."

Richardson is one of the more electrifying players in the league, winning the dunk contest in 2002 and 2003. He is the only player other than Michael Jordan to win the dunk contest in consecutive seasons.

Richardson, the fifth overall pick out of Michigan State in 2001, has averaged 16.2 points and 5.2 rebounds per game in his three-year career.

Murphy is coming off an injury-plagued season, playing only 28 games because of a deep bone bruise in his right foot and stress reaction in his right ankle. He averaged 10.0 points and 6.2 rebounds per game.

The previous year, the 6-foot-11 forward showed why the Warriors made him the 14th overall pick out of Notre Dame in the 2001 draft, averaging 11.7 points and 10.2 rebounds per game.

Keeping the two is a key step in the rebuilding process for a franchise that missed the playoffs for the 10th straight season in 2003-04.

"I think by signing Jason and myself we definitely have the ability to take this team to the playoffs and deep into the playoffs," Murphy said. "It's definitely good to get it out of the way and not have to think about it. I think we were optimistic up to the deadline something would get done and it did get done."

Both players told their agent, Dan Fegan, they wanted to go elsewhere if they didn't get an extension, the San Francisco Chronicle reported Monday.

Mullin said that didn't affect his decision.

"These negotiations have been going on and were further along than probably they knew," Mullin said. "I didn't see that and it had no affect on what was really happening."

Golden State finished 37-45 last season and Mullin fired coach Eric Musselman after the season. Former Stanford coach Mike Montgomery was hired to replace Musselman and is expected to build a winner.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=1914283

Unbelievable how much money they've put out there.
 
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SacTownKid said:
At least JRich is worth his money, and more.
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Yup. I respect the guy, he's a quality player and top ten guy at his position. He deserves to play in the post-season, doubt it's gonna be this season though. The Warriors health and defense is too uncertain, along with still lacking an inside offensive presence. Ike Diogu has shown flashes of that a number of times, but is he going to start? Don't think so.

It'd be fun to see the Warriors go against Dallas or the Spurs as an 8 seed. While it is the regular season, the Warriors have played both of them well over the last couple seasons.
 
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The Warriors have morphed into the Clippers of old a decade ago. Even if they get a piece here or there, they won't do much with it.
 
Gargamel said:
The Warriors have morphed into the Clippers of old a decade ago. Even if they get a piece here or there, they won't do much with it.
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They're the exact opposite. The clippers' knock was usually they didnt spend enough money, the warriors just throw money around to the wrong people. Only thing they got in common is that they both sucked.
 
Packt said:
These are the big men the GSW have drafted the past three years:

06'
1st: Patrick O'Bryant 7'0 260 C
2nd: Kosta Perovic 7-2 240 C


05'
1st: Ike Diogu 6-8 255 F
2nd: Chris Taft 6-10 251 F


04'
1st: Andris Biedrins 6-11 245 F-C
2nd: no pick

They're looking like the Knicks of the West, even more so if they trade for AI while Baron is still on the team.
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Biedrins was a mistake, Diogu was a great choice with lots of potential, Taft was decent for his pick, and this years bigs aren't provent, so how do they suck? The warriors will be better than the Kings in about 2 years.
 
I gotta agree with BMiller52, it's a whole different outcome with the Warriors, when they do something it's because they either overpayed or they made a stupid decision they are stuck for a while and the sad thing is they have been stuck for 12 years YIKES!!!
 
NorCal510 said:
Biedrins was a mistake, Diogu was a great choice with lots of potential, Taft was decent for his pick, and this years bigs aren't provent, so how do they suck? The warriors will be better than the Kings in about 2 years.
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And what is your reasoning behind this?
 
Biedrins I don't think was a mistake, he's still developing and has shown well several times so far. Diogu has played well a number of times, but is still devleoping and questions whether he'll transition to the NBA. Taft has shown nothing in the NBA so far because of injuries and lack of PT. Also has intangible/emotional questions.

In 2 years all the young bigs will still be developing. Except for maybe Biedrins, but he's not going to be anything really good, he'll be an above-average big. Also, where are all the young bigs going to get time to play? You got Foyle with an iffy contract, Murphy with another wild contract, O'Bryant. Diogu, Biedrins, Taft.

The Warriors still need to improve their defense, stay healthy, and improve their inside offense. The defense isn't and won't be there until they make changes from inside the team and outside the team. The health is uncertain. The inside offense isn't there yet, which is riding on Diogu and O'Bryant. Mike Montgomery has coached the Warriors to two seasons in the lottery, and has a similar roster as last season. edit: Don Nelson as coach now will improve Warriors some, but ultimately still won't be too good.

Right now the Warriors are a perimeter, fast-breaking, young and developing team. They're also not a tough team.

Also, the Warriors have like 300+ million dollars combined for 3 or 4 players. :eek:
 
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NorCal510 said:
Biedrins was a mistake, Diogu was a great choice with lots of potential, Taft was decent for his pick, and this years bigs aren't provent, so how do they suck? The warriors will be better than the Kings in about 2 years.
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Oh, I'm not saying they suck, though they do. I just wanted to mention they've drafted big men the past three years. I believe, as others, it's possible they will tank this year and draft another big- Oden if they can. I’m slightly envious, that’s all.

The NY comment was because I remember NY having a bunch of F/C, and are now stacked at the 1-3 spots, with two big name combo guards in Stevie and Stephon.
 
NorCal510 said:
Biedrins was a mistake, Diogu was a great choice with lots of potential, Taft was decent for his pick, and this years bigs aren't provent, so how do they suck? The warriors will be better than the Kings in about 2 years.
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The warriors gonna be better than the Kings in 2 years? SUREEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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I'm sure it'll happen led by JRich who has never led a team to anything and Baron Davis who'll average 30 PPG(too bad he'll only play one game). Taft hasn't proven anything yet, Diogu hasn't done anything yet, and Biedrins hasn't done anything yet either but I go out on a limb and say he'll be the best out of the 3.
 
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