Refs suck
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I thought the officiating was quite good. (And I don't really care about either team.) Roethlisberger's touchdown was way too close to call. And the Darrell Jackson push off was obvious; he created space with the push -- and Seattle didn't even complain about the call. I also thought the reversal on the Hasselbeck fumble was absolutely correct. The only call the officials missed was when Jeremy Stevens fumbled in the first half but the refs called it an incomplete pass.
The Steelers won fair and square. Although Roethlisberger sure got jittery down the stretch. His interception was a horrible pass that could have cost Pittsburgh the game.
And, by the way, the Rolling Stones ROCKED.
The Steelers won fair and square. Although Roethlisberger sure got jittery down the stretch. His interception was a horrible pass that could have cost Pittsburgh the game.
And, by the way, the Rolling Stones ROCKED.
Yeah the refs decided this game. Personally I think Vegas had their hands in. All the lines were ont he side of Pittsburg. If someone took certain lines on Seatlle they stood to make a LOT of money. Every crucial call went the way of Pittsburg. The first Pitt touchdown was not a touchdown. His elbow broke the plane. The pit of his elbow where the nose of the ball was did not.
The first touchdown by seattle WAS a touchdown. He barely touched the guy and it happens ALL the time every week in the nfl. Take that into account and your score is 17-14 Seatlle wins.
The first touchdown by seattle WAS a touchdown. He barely touched the guy and it happens ALL the time every week in the nfl. Take that into account and your score is 17-14 Seatlle wins.
Iy couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
The push off call was ticky-tack. You don't do that in the Super Bowl.
The Jerramy Stevens call was equally horrible. The guy had the ball, turned and took at least two steps. That's making a "football move" no matter how you look at it...
Those two equally poor calls cancel each other out IMHO.
I honestly think Roethlisberger did break the goal line plane with the ball initially so I would have agreed with that one.
All in all, although there were some questionable calls, this was Seattle's game to win. They pretty much had their way with the vaunted Steeler defense and simply didn't get the job done.
This was NOT a superbowl that will go down in history as one of the greats...
The Jerramy Stevens call was equally horrible. The guy had the ball, turned and took at least two steps. That's making a "football move" no matter how you look at it...
Those two equally poor calls cancel each other out IMHO.
I honestly think Roethlisberger did break the goal line plane with the ball initially so I would have agreed with that one.
All in all, although there were some questionable calls, this was Seattle's game to win. They pretty much had their way with the vaunted Steeler defense and simply didn't get the job done.
This was NOT a superbowl that will go down in history as one of the greats...
I felt like I was watching the Kings in a certain WCF game as I watched the Seahawks get flat out screwed by the officials. The push off was a bad call for a super bowl and Big Ben's T.D. was flat out cheating. Did you notice the call on the field first was that he was down, then a T.D.? Then, under review, there was not enough evidence to overturn the play... screw-job, pure and simple. I think someone got to at least one of the refs, but who? Vegas? The NFL (they will certainly sell more Steelers championship merchandise than Seahawks). It is not surprising, but, yet again, the large market team gets all of the important calls... Lastly, it is sad to me that the Seahawks lost by 11, that is exactly the number of points that were taken from them by the crooked officials. (Ben's TD (7) and the Jackson TD that ended up being a FG (4)).
I disagree that the two plays cancel each other out. On the contrary, Seattle got no benefit. The Stevens fumble came on third down, after it was ruled incomplete the Hawks punted, and there was a touchback. If the play is ruled a fumble, the ball had rolled inside the 15. Chances are Pitt recovers it and makes some sort of return and ends up with the ball around the 20. So either way, the end result is Steeler ball around the 20 no matter the call. The Jackson "push off" resulted in 3 points instead of 7. So in my opinion the two don't cancel out, one was a bad call that hurt Seattle, the other was a bad call that hurt no one.
I agree that Big Ben's run probably can't be overturned- way too close of a call. I did think that the phantom holding call that took away a Hawks First and goal early in the fourth was also bad (especially since Matt threw a pick two plays later)...
All in all, I thought the officiating was lousy. However, while Seattle can cry about missed calls all night, the fact of the matter is that they shot themselves in the foot. They beat Pittsburgh up, down, and around the field most of the game on both sides of the ball and never capitalized.
I am a huge Seahawks fan, and agree VF, that this was no SUPER bowl. Both teams played pretty lousy and the officiating was bad. But as a Hawks fan, it is pretty tough to point the fingers at the zebras when your own team played so poorly.
I agree that Big Ben's run probably can't be overturned- way too close of a call. I did think that the phantom holding call that took away a Hawks First and goal early in the fourth was also bad (especially since Matt threw a pick two plays later)...
All in all, I thought the officiating was lousy. However, while Seattle can cry about missed calls all night, the fact of the matter is that they shot themselves in the foot. They beat Pittsburgh up, down, and around the field most of the game on both sides of the ball and never capitalized.
I am a huge Seahawks fan, and agree VF, that this was no SUPER bowl. Both teams played pretty lousy and the officiating was bad. But as a Hawks fan, it is pretty tough to point the fingers at the zebras when your own team played so poorly.
Superbowl XL MVP: The Refs
OK, seriously - I am not going to sit here and truly say that they "should just suck it up and win anyway". I'm not going to put myself in their (The Seahawks) shoes at all. It must have been a very sad and heartwrenching game to have so much taken from them. The stats say they won, the score does not.
OK, seriously - I am not going to sit here and truly say that they "should just suck it up and win anyway". I'm not going to put myself in their (The Seahawks) shoes at all. It must have been a very sad and heartwrenching game to have so much taken from them. The stats say they won, the score does not.
That's the point I was actually trying to make. You just did it better.
I was rooting for the Seahawks because my son-in-law is a lifelong fan. I really quit caring, however, around October. (I'm a 49er fan to the bone...)
Well, there's always next year. One thing the Hawks must address is ball handling. The best receivers in the world don't do anybody any good if they have lousy handles.
I was rooting for the Seahawks because my son-in-law is a lifelong fan. I really quit caring, however, around October. (I'm a 49er fan to the bone...)
Well, there's always next year. One thing the Hawks must address is ball handling. The best receivers in the world don't do anybody any good if they have lousy handles.
I'm not trying to play devil's advocate here because I'll admit there were some iffy calls, but there was blatant bad officiating going on during the Colts-Steelers game, and Pittsburgh still won.
Being a Super Bowl caliber team, Seattle should have been able to do the same thing, but most of the mistakes they made can't be blamed on the officials (i.e. dropped passes, missed field goals).
Like I said, I'm not purposely trying to ruffle feathers, just wanted to put out there my $.02.
Being a Super Bowl caliber team, Seattle should have been able to do the same thing, but most of the mistakes they made can't be blamed on the officials (i.e. dropped passes, missed field goals).
Like I said, I'm not purposely trying to ruffle feathers, just wanted to put out there my $.02.
Like I said above, I was originally of this school of thought, but then I thought back to the way I felt in the WCF - the Kings had their chances despite the officials, but I was still mad as hell about the refs. Upon reflection, I identified with the Seattle fans' pain because regardless of how your team plays, you don't expect the officiating to be so onesided - all you want is a fair shot, and if you lose, you want it to be because you played poorly or the other team played great - not because you didn't play quite well enough to overcome a bunch of really bad calls.
The problem that I don't mind seeing talked about is how the officiating affected the game because so many important questionable calls went against the Seahawks. What I completely disagree with, and think is a non-story, is that the officiating was horrible and they gave the game to the Steelers.
The refs did a poor job in my opinion. But the refs in every sport do a poor job. I can't think of any sport that doesn't have consistent complaints about how bad the officiating is.
Also, all of the calls were questionable. There were no obviously bad calls in my opinion (granted I don't know the holding rule all that well, so a couple of the holds might have been blatantly wrong). The fact that the questionable calls went against Seattle absolutely had an effect on the game. This sucks because you always want the effects of officiating to be minimal. But this was no screw job.
The refs did a poor job in my opinion. But the refs in every sport do a poor job. I can't think of any sport that doesn't have consistent complaints about how bad the officiating is.
Also, all of the calls were questionable. There were no obviously bad calls in my opinion (granted I don't know the holding rule all that well, so a couple of the holds might have been blatantly wrong). The fact that the questionable calls went against Seattle absolutely had an effect on the game. This sucks because you always want the effects of officiating to be minimal. But this was no screw job.