I hate to be the guy to ask the obvious, but I'm an idiot, so I just will: How possible is it to have the FRP not convey to ATL at this point? I mean, even losing the majority of the remaining schedule, I'm sure it also depends entirely on PHX and DAL as well, but is it even possible at this poinnt?
More Tank Talk! Plus, What is a Wing? (split from the [Game] thread}
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Obviously, if we get out of the play-in, we lose the pick.
At this point, the most likely path to keeping the pick might actually be to lose in the play-in, and to end up either 13th or 14th, and then to hit the lottery!
Of course, we could miss the play-in altogether, but that would entail us (35-35) falling behind both Phoenix (34-37) and Dallas (34-37), and while I can see Phoenix happening, Dallas is 2-8 in their last 10 and missing their only good players, so this seems really unlikely.
The other route would be for us to lose out of the play-in, and end up in the 12th slot behind two other play-in losers - but obviously only one of those can come from the western conference. That basically means that the Hawks (34-36) would have to finish ahead of us, and then lose in the play-in from a position of massive strength (two games to win one).
So, I would give us about 1 chance in 100 to keep the pick, though that could improve if we try really, really hard to tank (we won't).
At this point, the most likely path to keeping the pick might actually be to lose in the play-in, and to end up either 13th or 14th, and then to hit the lottery!
Of course, we could miss the play-in altogether, but that would entail us (35-35) falling behind both Phoenix (34-37) and Dallas (34-37), and while I can see Phoenix happening, Dallas is 2-8 in their last 10 and missing their only good players, so this seems really unlikely.
The other route would be for us to lose out of the play-in, and end up in the 12th slot behind two other play-in losers - but obviously only one of those can come from the western conference. That basically means that the Hawks (34-36) would have to finish ahead of us, and then lose in the play-in from a position of massive strength (two games to win one).
So, I would give us about 1 chance in 100 to keep the pick, though that could improve if we try really, really hard to tank (we won't).
We said the same thing about Mike brown this has to be coming from above. No need to get rid of Doug we’re doing good with him what’s the rush to fire him not his fault Monte doesn’t like getting wings. If Fox was traded for a big we Ellis would be starting but no we trade fox for a SG who can’t defend knowing we have ellis/Carter
Maybe I need an education on what a wing is because when I was growing up it was the 2 and three positions. According to this definition, Jordan was a wing. Kobe was a wing. Dwayne Wade was a wing.
Kevin Durant is also a wing but obviously can fill the four spot due to height.
Lebron James is a wing.
Zach Lavine is a wing.
Demar DeRozan is a wing.
What is this mythical wing that Monte does not like trading for or signing?
Kevin Durant is also a wing but obviously can fill the four spot due to height.
Lebron James is a wing.
Zach Lavine is a wing.
Demar DeRozan is a wing.
What is this mythical wing that Monte does not like trading for or signing?
Good to hear Carmichael Dave calling out ownership for what they are. A bunch of buffoons. Their unwillingness to comit to an actual rebuild has us where we are today. Middling, on the cusp of losing our pick and loaded with players who just don’t fit together. Not to mention we were saddled with one of the worst contracts in the entire league and the guy just isn’t fitting.
I'm afraid that my fellow Indian brother, Mr. Ranadive, needs to commit to a full blown rebuild (i.e. literally start from the very bottom and build up), or I might just end up joining the "Vivek is an incompetent idiot who needs to do whatever the f it takes to sell the team and not ever own a professional basketball (or sports in general) franchise again" bandwagon.
And I think you might be overestimating the willingness of a competent GM to be willing to accept the job without being given assurances that he can hire his own personnel. Or do you expect Ranadivé to fire McNair and then turn around and downgrade at the position? Because nobody who's more competent than he is is going to take the job just to be a figurehead.
Here is the AI definition….
Position:
Wings are primarily known for their ability to play on the perimeter, often starting the offensive action outside the 3-point line.
Versatility:
Modern NBA wings are expected to be versatile, able to handle the ball, shoot from outside, rebound, and defend multiple positions.
Scoring and Defense:
Wings are often tasked with being reliable scorers and defensive anchors, capable of guarding both guards and forwards.
Examples:
Players like Paul George, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James are often considered wing players due to their ability to play multiple positions and contribute in various ways.
Modern Game:
The modern NBA places a high value on wings, as they are often seen as the "do-it-all" players who can make a significant impact on both ends of the floor.
Position:
Wings are primarily known for their ability to play on the perimeter, often starting the offensive action outside the 3-point line.
Versatility:
Modern NBA wings are expected to be versatile, able to handle the ball, shoot from outside, rebound, and defend multiple positions.
Scoring and Defense:
Wings are often tasked with being reliable scorers and defensive anchors, capable of guarding both guards and forwards.
Examples:
Players like Paul George, Kevin Durant, and LeBron James are often considered wing players due to their ability to play multiple positions and contribute in various ways.
Modern Game:
The modern NBA places a high value on wings, as they are often seen as the "do-it-all" players who can make a significant impact on both ends of the floor.
Just looking at our history here... but that's exactly what happened previously. We upgraded our GM (Vlade to Monte) while keeping our old head coach (Walton). You're also assuming who we think is a GM upgrade on Monte is who Vivek believes is an upgrade (Jeremy Lamb anyone???) Of course I understand Christie is in a different spot as an "interim" head coach with no contract beyond this year; however, he also appears to be a favorite of ownership. Maybe not likely, but I definitely don't think it's impossible that ownership views Doug as doing a great job holding things together despite multiple challenges, while Monte takes the fall if we don't get out of the play-in. Not saying I'm rooting for that at all, but do you really think that's not possible?
We retained Joerger and Walton with new GMs. A rebuilding team is unlikely to be appealing to a veteran coach, the necessary losses weigh down on a coach's long term record.
Lame duck coaches can be used to sponge up losses while the team rebuilds assets. This is where Christie would have a role with a new GM
Lame duck coaches can be used to sponge up losses while the team rebuilds assets. This is where Christie would have a role with a new GM
This is assuming Vivek would allow a rebuild, which I seriously doubt would ever happen, considering he has been a "win now" guy since assuming ownership of the franchise.
All those high lotto years under Vlade don't count as a rebuild either, because we were trying to "win now" back then too, Vlade was just a bumbling buffoon of a train wreck as GM.
All those high lotto years under Vlade don't count as a rebuild either, because we were trying to "win now" back then too, Vlade was just a bumbling buffoon of a train wreck as GM.
