[News] Kings sign Dylan Cardwell to FOUR-year deal

pdxKingsFan said:
I assume this "4" year deals includes this year, so we will not be in the Keon trap and he will be an RFA at the conclusion.

RIIIIGHT?!?
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I would assume that year 1 is this year.

I know that teams have been constructing deals for second-round players that resemble the deals being given to players late in the first round, but I can find nothing in the CBA that allows for restricted free agency for a four-year player except for a true "Rookie Scale Contract", and I can find nothing that suggests that a "Rookie Scale Contract" may be offered to any player *except* a first round pick. Dylan was not a first round pick. I believe that if we exercise the team option after year 2, we will not be able to make him a restricted free agent. I believe this is exactly the Keon situation, but with one extra year on the deal.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I would assume that year 1 is this year.

I know that teams have been constructing deals for second-round players that resemble the deals being given to players late in the first round, but I can find nothing in the CBA that allows for restricted free agency for a four-year player except for a true "Rookie Scale Contract", and I can find nothing that suggests that a "Rookie Scale Contract" may be offered to any player *except* a first round pick. Dylan was not a first round pick. I believe that if we exercise the team option after year 2, we will not be able to make him a restricted free agent. I believe this is exactly the Keon situation, but with one extra year on the deal.
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Buzzkill. This was Keon's fourth year though, wasn't it?
 
Capt. Factorial said:
I would assume that year 1 is this year.

I know that teams have been constructing deals for second-round players that resemble the deals being given to players late in the first round, but I can find nothing in the CBA that allows for restricted free agency for a four-year player except for a true "Rookie Scale Contract", and I can find nothing that suggests that a "Rookie Scale Contract" may be offered to any player *except* a first round pick. Dylan was not a first round pick. I believe that if we exercise the team option after year 2, we will not be able to make him a restricted free agent. I believe this is exactly the Keon situation, but with one extra year on the deal.
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So we get 2 more Dylan years before we let him walk in UFA and decline his RFA rights?
 
pdxKingsFan said:
Buzzkill. This was Keon's fourth year though, wasn't it?
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...yes, you're right.

But his first year was entirely on a two-way deal, he didn't get his NBA deal until late in his second year.

It's not yet clear how the final two years of Cardwell's contract are structured, but if we could exit the contract after year three, we could still make him an RFA. But not after year four. So...not necessarily exactly like the Keon situation, because Keon had a "non-NBA-contract" year at the beginning, but otherwise the parallels are the same. Cardwell would be eligible for an extension two years from today (that's one year in his career earlier than Keon).
 
The_Jamal said:
So we get 2 more Dylan years before we let him walk in UFA and decline his RFA rights?
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I know you're mostly throwing shade about Keon, but if the structure of the contract allows us to end it after the third season (i.e. "two more years") then we would have RFA rights, if we wanted them. We only lose the ability to submit that QO if we keep him all four years.
 
Capt. Factorial said:
...yes, you're right.

But his first year was entirely on a two-way deal, he didn't get his NBA deal until late in his second year.

It's not yet clear how the final two years of Cardwell's contract are structured, but if we could exit the contract after year three, we could still make him an RFA. But not after year four. So...not necessarily exactly like the Keon situation, because Keon had a "non-NBA-contract" year at the beginning, but otherwise the parallels are the same. Cardwell would be eligible for an extension two years from today (that's one year in his career earlier than Keon).
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https://twitter.com/x/status/2019566325191045356

Sounds like it’s the year three RFA option then
 
Capt. Factorial said:
...yes, you're right.

But his first year was entirely on a two-way deal, he didn't get his NBA deal until late in his second year.

It's not yet clear how the final two years of Cardwell's contract are structured, but if we could exit the contract after year three, we could still make him an RFA. But not after year four. So...not necessarily exactly like the Keon situation, because Keon had a "non-NBA-contract" year at the beginning, but otherwise the parallels are the same. Cardwell would be eligible for an extension two years from today (that's one year in his career earlier than Keon).
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So we could extend him a full year before we'd be forced to lose him. Which gets rid of the worst part. Plus this would actually carry Bird rights in a trade since it is 3.5 years on fully guaranteed first team deal. I had always assumed Bird rights carried over in Keon deals but from the reports when the Cavs took him it looked like since it was only 2.5 years at the NBA level they only have early-Bird.

If that's typical for a second rounder or undrafted guy it seems fair.
 
We did not let Ellis walk, he turned int o Hunter, witch im happy about.

Ill take that deal anytime. It wasn't even on the table 2 years ago. Better late tha never, also better than what people are saying witch is we got nothing. Look on the bright side lol
 
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