Bee Kings Notes: bibby the stopper? (merged)

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NOTE: I know this article was posted in the ongoing SAR/KT fight thread, but there's other good stuff here so I'm posting it with it's own thread for any discussion on the non-KT and SAR stuff. I like what I'm hearing about Bibby!!!

http://www.sacbee.com/351/story/36497.html

Thomas, Abdur-Rahim have run-in at practice
By Joe Davidson - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 6:33 am PDT Tuesday, October 10, 2006


Eric Musselman has insisted on nonstop activity in every drill and scrimmage this training camp.

The Kings' new coach said he has received maximum effort, including some spillover emotion Monday afternoon between two power forwards fighting -- almost literally -- for the starting job.

Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim nearly traded blows at the end of a scrimmage, though cooler heads quickly prevailed. No one made much of it, offering reminders that spirited competition is common in camp.

"They've been battling it out, two guys competing," Musselman said, betraying no concern about the chest-bumping. "You coach in the CBA long enough ... that was nothing."

If it were a pay-per-view bout, the public would have howled to get its money back. The veterans have had run-ins before, including barking at each other at the end of a regular-season game last season. Both players downplayed it then.

Thomas said Monday's incident was merely "a heat-of-the-moment" thing.

"I'm very competitive, and I'm just playing hard," he said. "We're all trying to establish ourselves. It ain't nothing personal."

Abdur-Rahim was not present to comment.

Ron Artest, who admitted getting into his fair share of practice scrums over the years, said during a light moment that Monday's tussle was "weak."

"You gotta do some of that in practice every once in a while," Artest said of player dust-ups. "Otherwise, you're not going hard enough."

Bibby the stopper? -- Mike Bibby has stepped up his defense since the start of camp, and everyone is taking notice.

"He's done a really good job," Musselman said. "He's shown a willingness to pick up the ball earlier in the backcourt defensively. We want to continue to reinforce that he has the ability to do that, to remind him. He's been doing it all camp."

Reserve guard Jason Hart said Bibby looks leaner and quicker. The Kings' veteran floor leader shed 15 pounds in the offseason.

"Mike Bibby really looks good, really good," Hart said. "He looks like the high school Mike -- thin, slim, quicker. He used to be top-heavy. And he liked to look big in the chest and all."

Hart, a veteran of five NBA seasons, said bulk and power aren't the key to this sport.

"Look at Thomas," Hart said. "He's not too defined muscle-wise, but he's strong as an ox, and he's quick."

Big on Miller -- At Golden State, Musselman had a pretty fair big-man shooter in Troy Murphy. But Musselman said he believes he has a unique big-man talent with the Kings in Brad Miller.

Musselman reminds himself of that every time he sees his 7-foot center fire an assist or hit an 18-footer or a three-pointer.

"He's got guard-shooting ability and guard-passing ability," Musselman said. "He's special because of his size and shooting. Brad's passing is off the charts. I would say he's the best passing center in the NBA."

Practice what they preach -- During his two seasons coaching the Warriors, Musselman often engaged in pickup games with his coaching staff.

Now that the two-a-days are over, he's ready to round up the crew again. Normally, that would mean a lot of pulled muscles and creaky joints for veteran staffs. But the Kings' coaching unit is a youthful lot that works out in the weight room and keeps the flab at bay.

"We're all in shape," Musselman said, grinning. "We'd better be the best-conditioned staff in the league."

About the writer: The Bee's Joe Davidson can be reached at jdavidson@sacbee.com.
 
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Bibby the stopper?

I grabbed this from the thread about KT and SAR fighting
http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15656&page=2


http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/36497.html

Kings notes: Thomas, Abdur-Rahim have run-in at practice


Eric Musselman has insisted on nonstop activity in every drill and scrimmage this training camp.
The Kings' new coach said he has received maximum effort, including some spillover emotion Monday afternoon between two power forwards fighting -- almost literally -- for the starting job.
Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim nearly traded blows at the end of a scrimmage, though cooler heads quickly prevailed. No one made much of it, offering reminders that spirited competition is common in camp.
They've been battling it out, two guys competing," Musselman said, betraying no concern about the chest-bumping. "You coach in the CBA long enough ... that was nothing."
If it were a pay-per-view bout, the public would have howled to get its money back. The veterans have had run-ins before, including barking at each other at the end of a regular-season game last season. Both players downplayed it then.
Thomas said Monday's incident was merely "a heat-of-the-moment" thing.
"I'm very competitive, and I'm just playing hard," he said. "We're all trying to establish ourselves. It ain't nothing personal."
Abdur-Rahim was not present to comment.
Ron Artest, who admitted getting into his fair share of practice scrums over the years, said during a light moment that Monday's tussle was "weak."
"You gotta do some of that in practice every once in a while," Artest said of player dust-ups. "Otherwise, you're not going hard enough."
Bibby the stopper? -- Mike Bibby has stepped up his defense since the start of camp, and everyone is taking notice.
"He's done a really good job," Musselman said. "He's shown a willingness to pick up the ball earlier in the backcourt defensively. We want to continue to reinforce that he has the ability to do that, to remind him. He's been doing it all camp."
Reserve guard Jason Hart said Bibby looks leaner and quicker. The Kings' veteran floor leader shed 15 pounds in the offseason.
"Mike Bibby really looks good, really good," Hart said. "He looks like the high school Mike -- thin, slim, quicker. He used to be top-heavy. And he liked to look big in the chest and all."
Hart, a veteran of five NBA seasons, said bulk and power aren't the key to this sport.
"Look at Thomas," Hart said. "He's not too defined muscle-wise, but he's strong as an ox, and he's quick."
Big on Miller -- At Golden State, Musselman had a pretty fair big-man shooter in Troy Murphy. But Musselman said he believes he has a unique big-man talent with the Kings in Brad Miller.
Musselman reminds himself of that every time he sees his 7-foot center fire an assist or hit an 18-footer or a three-pointer.
"He's got guard-shooting ability and guard-passing ability," Musselman said. "He's special because of his size and shooting. Brad's passing is off the charts. I would say he's the best passing center in the NBA."
Practice what they preach -- During his two seasons coaching the Warriors, Musselman often engaged in pickup games with his coaching staff.
Now that the two-a-days are over, he's ready to round up the crew again. Normally, that would mean a lot of pulled muscles and creaky joints for veteran staffs. But the Kings' coaching unit is a youthful lot that works out in the weight room and keeps the flab at bay.
"We're all in shape," Musselman said, grinning. "We'd better be the best-conditioned staff in the league."

I know they often just tell you what you want to hear in the preseason... but bibby even as a so-so defender would be a HUGE HUGE improvement to the team.
 
bibby as a defender would help this team... bad defense is better than no defense at all... he and nash kill me with that matador "defense"....
 
bibby used to lock nash up back in the kings mavs battles. i think getting bigger definately slowed him down. glad he lost weight.
 
for some reason nash is the only player that bibby can stop...
 
i hope bibby makes the allstar team this year...i know he might not casue of tony, steve and cp3, but i think other than maybe carmelo bibby deserves to be a allstar more than anyone else who hasnt been one....maybe j rich deserves it a wee bit too

hopefully better defense will look good to the voters... atually maybe hell get voted in
 
i love what i'm hearing about mike so far. i hope this defense thing is true. i really hope he improved his D. it would help a lot.

i can't wait for the season to start!! :D
 
I hope he makes the all star team as well, but the more important thing is that i really hope is defense is not a complete liability anymore.
 
There is no way in freaking hell that bibby without defense makes the all-star team without some serious injury bugs hitting a BUNCH of other west conf guards.

Bibby WITH defense? I'd start to entertain the (even encourage) the notion.

(but at this point in his career, talking about Bibby suddenly getting defense is almost tantamount to saying "if SHaq could just develop his three-point-shot... he'd be unstoppable! ...... I'll wait until I see SOME d, before I get too excited)
 
I do believe you might want to stock up on some party supplies, doc. Word from Fandemonium was they actually - brace yourself - saw Bibby playing defense.

;)
 
yes, the defense of his bag of popcorn from KT's grbby paws was, was, was awe-inspiring <sob>

I'm still breathless. ;)
 
This can't be. Are you talking about "THE" Mike Bibby? The one from the Sacramento Kings? Playing Defense? If this is the actual truth, then I......arghhhh! I'll be back in a minute. I could have sworn I just saw a ...a...Pig flying past my roof.
 
I've always thought Bibby was a liability on defense. On the other hand I've always felt he was a A level basketball player. Clutch and hardnosed.

His commitment to working on his offense game (crossover and shooting) brought him elite status a few years back. He's a top level athlete. Hmm--maybe he will be a good defensive player. Sure will help having Ron as a running mate. I always bang this drum, but I also think Garcia will help Bibby and others look better. Hey, maybe Salmons, too. I want to watch some basketball and see the Kings. Maybe they'll be very good.

If only someone could block a shot.
 
Justin Williams can! To bad he's probably getting cut.

...If Garcia shows more improvement and gets more minutes he could end up leading this team in blocks per game.

Remember that run of good defense he had before he landed on Brad's foot and injured himself?
 
and now Garcia is sidelined with some kind of groin injury. I think we need to get him some lucky charms.

;)
 
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