Kings get James Johnson, who is he???

OnYouLikeGlue

OnYouLikeGlue

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For one he led all SF in blocks per minute last year. Looks like a guy who doesn't need the ball and can play defense, but doesn't really fill the shooter role we would like out of the SF position. However, he did shoot the 3 better than any of the other SF's on the roster from last season.
 
vikinginferno

vikinginferno

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THIS is our freaking big move!? It's not a bad move...but come on. Don't hype us up that there is going to be a potentially big move coming and then it be us getting some mediocre small forward...

Edit: Looking at it without the "big move" emphasis, it is actually a nice pickup... He's got great size for the SF position and if he could boost up that 32% 3 shooting to around 34-35 or so, then he could be our best option to start.

We are giving up something that we would likely give away for cash if we kept it anyways.
 
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theclash4u5

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OnYouLikeGlue said:
For one he led all SF in blocks per minute last year. Looks like a guy who doesn't need the ball and can play defense, but doesn't really fill the shooter role we would like out of the SF position. However, he did shoot the 3 better than any of the other SF's on the roster from last season.
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He shot 30% from the 3 last season after shooting 22%, 24% and 23% the past 3 years....
 
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sactownfan

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i can tell you this he's an upgrade at SF. haha... but seriously he is... I'm ok with this... give him a tryout... very expected low risk slight upgrade... upgrade over Greene.

Im just happy we didn't just do nothing. that would have been pure garbage. this is perfect considering Petrie doesn't want to trade Evans just yet, and clearly we are on a budget. haha...

super low risk, for a position we needed.
 
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Tetsujin

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While he certainly isn't AK47 or Batum, Johnson is actually pretty solid. One of the better shotblockers for his position if we put him at the 3. That said, he is another tweener type guy, albeit, this one of the PF/SF variety rather than our usual SF/SG type of guy. Only hits 30% of his 3s which, for out team, is an improvement (Not a good thing). That said, he's still only 24 and I'm quite frankly that we picked him up for a mere 2nd round pick.
 
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Wow. I might be one of the few that thinks we got a steal here.

Johnson came out 16th pick from the class of 2009 which is actually a good crop with Griffin, Evans, TWill, etc.
Unfortunately, he was drafted by teams who already have established starting SF. Chicago (Deng) and Raptors (Derozan).
But, IMO, this guy is a poor man's Danny Granger. Smooth offense but a big slow footed.

If he gets minutes, he will be much better than Salmons, Outlaw, or any SF in the team.

I'd say thumbs up for Petrie.
 
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theclash4u5

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macadocious said:


EDIT: Just found these, never seen this guy before
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Oh awesome, another player who just drives at the rim at will. Just what we needed. Hopefully we can have Evans, T-Rob, him and Cousins on the floor at the same time and just see who takes the most iso/contested shots at the rim.
 
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theclash4u5

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KingsCitizen said:
Wow. I might be one of the few that thinks we got a steal here.

Johnson came out 16th pick from the class of 2009 which is actually a good crop with Griffin, Evans, TWill, etc.
Unfortunately, he was drafted by teams who already have established starting SF. Chicago (Deng) and Raptors (Derozan).
But, IMO, this guy is a poor man's Danny Granger. Smooth offense but a big slow footed.

If he gets minutes, he will be much better than Salmons, Outlaw, or any SF in the team.

I'd say thumbs up for Petrie.
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DeRozan is a SG.
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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theclash4u5 said:
But seriously, we could have just had Wright for another million more, and at least he gave us a good 3PT shot. I don't get it.
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Johnson is a slightly better defender at this stage in his career. Let's not disregard the fact that his 3pt% has improved over his short career either.
 
steelevt

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would have preferred wright. assumed we needed a 3 that could shoot 3s, but that would be too logical. i guess when petrie wanted to add size, defense, a sf and shooting, he meant he wanted a big that could shoot 3s when he ate with ryan anderson and a sf that could block shots in johnson, instead of the traditional defensive big and 3 pt shooting sf.
 
ParniValjak

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He might be a nice pick up as a back up SF but the problem is that we have his level of player on our team already. He is not a real SF because he cannot guard a lot of SFs out there. He is a classic tweener.

We are blowing cap space on NON-FACTORS! That is the HUGE issue here. We always seem to blow the little money that we have on average players just to make up numbers. That is a major issue. We went from having $6 million under the cap to now $3.2 million and we are have NOT improved. We would be better off if we just re-signed T-Will. This team has lost the plot. We are officially the laughing stock of the NBA, the new Clippers! :(
 
OnYouLikeGlue

OnYouLikeGlue

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steelevt said:
would have preferred wright. assumed we needed a 3 that could shoot 3s, but that would be too logical. i guess when petrie wanted to add size, defense, a sf and shooting, he meant he wanted a big that could shoot 3s when he ate with ryan anderson and a sf that could block shots in johnson, instead of the traditional defensive big and 3 pt shooting sf.
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Not like he's a great shooter, but his 31.7% from 3 last year was higher than the other SF's on the team (Salmons, Outlaw, Cisco).
 
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theclash4u5

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Tetsujin said:
Johnson is a slightly better defender at this stage in his career. Let's not disregard the fact that his 3pt% has improved over his short career either.
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Eh, 31% last season. Salmons shot 29%, but that was the worst of his career. That being said, he only shot 115 3PT shots, so he's not really known to do it. So if MT goes to the bench, our 3PT lineup is going to look....horrible. Teams are just going to dare us to shoot. So Salmons is going to have to start now.
 
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theclash4u5

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Čarolija said:
He might be a nice pick up as a back up SF but the problem is that we have his level of player on our team already. He is not a real SF because he cannot guard a lot of SFs out there. He is a classic tweener.

We are blowing cap space on NON-FACTORS! That is the HUGE issue here. We always seem to blow the little money that we have on average players just to make up numbers. That is a major issue. We went from having $6 million under the cap to now $3.2 million and we are have NOT improved. We would be better off if we just re-signed T-Will. This team has lost the plot. We are officially the laughing stock of the NBA, the new Clippers! :(
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Exactly. We didn't give up much for him and his deal expires at the end of this season, but let's be honest to ourselves. We could have got someone out of the D-League for the min and probably got the same production. This guy is good at driving to the rim and creating contact with is like....95% of our team. That being said, can't see us taking on any more salary now, so enjoy James Johnson, I guess.
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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Čarolija said:
He might be a nice pick up as a back up SF but the problem is that we have his level of player on our team already. He is not a real SF because he cannot guard a lot of SFs out there. He is a classic tweener.

We are blowing cap space on NON-FACTORS! That is the HUGE issue here. We always seem to blow the little money that we have on average players just to make up numbers. That is a major issue. We went from having $6 million under the cap to now $3.2 million and we are have NOT improved. We would be better off if we just re-signed T-Will. This team has lost the plot. We are officially the laughing stock of the NBA, the new Clippers! :(
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Here's the thing about him though. His first two years in the league were spent marinating on the bench in Chicago. When he finally started getting time in Toronto, he produced. Is he a world breaking shooter? No. Is he going to take over games? No. Can he block shots? Yes. He's 24 years old and has shown improvement from the start of his career to now. People wanted a 3 that could block shots to compliment our front court. Well now we have him. Is he AK47? No. Can he become an AK47 type player? We'll see.
 
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theclash4u5

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sactownfan said:
James Johnson was one of 7 players last season to average 1+ block & 1+ steal per game (min 500 min). http://bkref.com/tiny/KVXSL
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That's great and all, but this did nothing to improve our major weakness last season at the SF spot; shooting the ball. If Salmons would have shot his career average of 36%, we wouldn't be looking for another SF right now. But yes, at least he blocks shots and plays defense, I guess.
 
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