Should Jimmer become a starter?

[Italics]

I'm biased, but for what it's worth, I think he should be, as he's the only one running any semblance of an actual offense right now. He's also been shooting a good % compared to the rest of the team (yet I've seen some say he's "not been shooting well," which is kind of strange to see when you consider the fact that he's consistently been shooting a higher % than other players, but anyway...)

I've seen several others on the board - especially after the Bulls game - say they think Jimmer should start. Just curious to see what the split is.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

I put Yes for Thornton but really my answer is just plain yes. He looks like the only guy on the team that has a clue how to run an offense right now. When he's been in the game, generally, good things have happened even when he's not hitting his threes.

 

[rainmaker]

I have said for months, our backcourt will eventually be Jimmer and Reke. Marcus is a natural 6th man. Jimmer is the only creator out of the three at the moment, for the most part, and is far more comfortable creating for others, than Reke and Marcus.

Most here have always disagreed with me on that. But I do think that is how it will ultimately play out. Jimmer is the only one of the three, who actually looks comfortable continuously trying to set guys up, and appears he wants to set guys up. Comes much more natural for him than the other two.

And you know why? Because Jimmer is a PG!

Of course, without any shotblocker behind him, and a midget starting pf, we'd have problems defensively. However, we already have plenty of problems defensively, as in half the team doesn't play any.

 

[swisshh]

I don't think he's ready yet. He may get the job halfway through the season, but he still has a lot to learn. I'd rather him come off the bench, but handle the ball when he's in there. You need more time testing him out at running an offense before committing to it. We still haven't seen much of him with Cousins, which is a two-man game that I'd like to see.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

I don't think he's ready yet. He may get the job halfway through the season, but he still has a lot to learn. I'd rather him come off the bench, but handle the ball when he's in there. You need more time testing him out at running an offense before committing to it. We still haven't seen much of him with Cousins, which is a two-man game that I'd like to see.

Honestly, If I knew nothing about this team and saw them for the first time, i wouldn't guess Jimmer to be the rookie. I would seriously think Tyreke was the rookie before Jimmer.

 

[Italics]

I don't think he's ready yet. He may get the job halfway through the season, but he still has a lot to learn. I'd rather him come off the bench, but handle the ball when he's in there. You need more time testing him out at running an offense before committing to it. We still haven't seen much of him with Cousins, which is a two-man game that I'd like to see.

Well, the problem is Cousins doesn't like to pass... but can you blame him when he's shooting an epic 4-16 from the field?

 

[TehSwimGuy]

Would rather Jimmer in than Reke. At least the offense flows some through Jimmer. He has great court vision. Reke looks worse than when he was a rookie. Pre-rookie status.

 

[SacTownKid]

Yeah, if there is a question of who starts and who sits it sure ain't involving Marcus Thornton. No way.

 

[RookieOfTheDay]

Well, the problem is Cousins doesn't like to pass... but can you blame him when he's shooting an epic 4-16 from the field?

Cousins claims he loves to pass and his 2.5 assist average last year kind of backs that up. Everything is a mess on this team right now and it's making guys who are normally good passers play selfish. No one with the exception of Jimmer seems like they want to pass. I'm sure it will get better as they learn to play with each other.

 

[jcwkings]

If we works on his ball handling a big more, jimmer can be like Stephen curry, with better ability to create his own shot and driving inside, but with less creativity in his passing, but he does show to have high bball iq and above average court vision

 

[Glenn]

I can see the day rapidly approaching when Jimmer and Tyreke are the starting backcourt. Thornton still deserves a lot of minutes as he seems to be our best scorer. Our problems, however, seem to be on a larger scale than to simply who starts and who doesn't. I presume a clever coach could figure who should play and when.

 

[UK_King]

I don't think he's ready yet either. But you can see that he will eventually be ready, once he gets a feel for the pace of the NBA game, where he can dribble, where he can get his shot i think he will be a necessity on the floor. The problem will always be is there an offense ready for him to slot into? Or is it just gonna be him dribbling around the top of the key and having to pull up with 2 on the S/C

i'll say it again, he's scared of something or someone because he passes up way too many shots.

He'll never be a Rose type of player but the way he penetrated last night and dished was just fantastic; i don't see why people like Jimmer can't study guards like Rondo and Rose, study their behaviour, where they dribble, how they move.

 

[Warhawk]

I don't think he's ready yet either. But you can see that he will eventually be ready, once he gets a feel for the pace of the NBA game, where he can dribble, where he can get his shot i think he will be a necessity on the floor. The problem will always be is there an offense ready for him to slot into? Or is it just gonna be him dribbling around the top of the key and having to pull up with 2 on the S/C

i'll say it again, he's scared of something or someone because he passes up way too many shots.

He'll never be a Rose type of player but the way he penetrated last night and dished was just fantastic; i don't see why people like Jimmer can't study guards like Rondo and Rose, study their behaviour, where they dribble, how they move.

I think I agree with much of this. He still doesn't look comfortable out there and hesitates on taking his shots unless the shotclock is expiring. I think he is thinking too much right now.

I can see a time (maybe a month, maybe 2-3, maybe ???) when he might be the starting 1 with Evans at the 2. Not yet though.

 

[thefly]

He clearly seemed more confident last night than the previous two. In a month or two he will be vastly improved. 14 pts is pretty good considering they all came from him creating his own shot without much help. Just think if they actually ran some plays for Jimmer to get open looks. If he shot as many as Cousins/Reke/Thornton (15 to 20 shots per game) how many more points he would score?

 

[TehSwimGuy]

Honestly, I think he just doesn't want to be seen as a gunner, a la Jason Richardson, who will hoist up shots till Kingdom come, no matter if he's ice cold or not.

But Jimmer needs to find the line between overshooting his hand and taking the necessary basket shots.

 

[upinsmoke]

Bench Thornton? PFFFT! Bench Reke or play him at the 3.

 

[jcassio]

I can see the day rapidly approaching when Jimmer and Tyreke are the starting backcourt. Thornton still deserves a lot of minutes as he seems to be our best scorer. Our problems, however, seem to be on a larger scale than to simply who starts and who doesn't. I presume a clever coach could figure who should play and when.

I voted NO, but I agree with this.

 

[upinsmoke]

jcassio I like your avatar kinda sums up the last few years for us.

 

[jsb]

I'm a Jimmer fan but dont think he is ready to start just yet. When and if he starts they need to run some set plays for him. The only high screen they ran all night gave Jimmer a wide open three. That is something they need to do more along with pick&rolls. That was basically BYU's offense and it worked really well.

 

[Chupacabra]

Im not interested in ever starting any player thats a defensive liability regardless of their impact on offense. Dirk might be the only exception. Thats all i have to say about that/: forest gump

 

[Seanathon81]

I don't think it's a matter of his offense not being ready. It could be argued that most the players on this team aren't ready to run the offense. I think where starting Jimmer would hurt the Kings is defensively. He does not seem ready to handle the opposing teams top PG and is too small and not athletic enough to guard most teams top 2 guard.

 

[Glenn]

Honestly, I think he just doesn't want to be seen as a gunner, a la Jason Richardson, who will hoist up shots till Kingdom come, no matter if he's ice cold or not.

But Jimmer needs to find the line between overshooting his hand and taking the necessary basket shots.

Probably true as to Jimmer's mind set. I'd rather see him gun when open. He IS a gunner. What's wrong with that when you can shoot better than most players in the NBA?

 

[TehSwimGuy]

Probably true as to Jimmer's mind set. I'd rather see him gun when open. He IS a gunner. What's wrong with that when you can shoot better than most players in the NBA?

Oh, I think he can, and he should. I just think that's what is in his head right now.

 

[Glenn]

Oh, I think he can, and he should. I just think that's what is in his head right now.

I understood you.

 

[rainmaker]

I think Jimmer has only passed up a few shots he should have taken. Him not shooting isn't the problem now, and would fix itself pretty quickly anyway. He looked more aggressive last night.

I completely disagree with people who think Jimmer is trying to tame himself in a sense, and focusing on setting others up, as if it wasn't natural for him. In college he regularly would go an entire half setting teammates up. He scored out of necessity. He really is a true pg, who also happens to be a phenomenal shooter.

He's already more comfortable probing the defense, and looking to set guys up, and running pick & rolls than anyone else on our roster.

 

[teachmehowtojimmer]

Jimmer is the best PG on the time. However, I want MT as the sixth man. Sure, Tyreke struggles shooting the ball but Jimmer gives them the shooting they need in the starting lineup. Reke should focus on scoring the rock as a 2 or 3. Mainly 2. Reke shouldn't be relied upon to set the offense up, as that's not his strength. TE is a great scorer. Jimmer is a great scorer and distributor.

 

[AL/kfan]

I agree with everyone that is saying Jimmer is not quite ready to start, but just barely. The thing is, Fredette is starting to look as good as or better than our starting point guard. I'm glad that he's getting a ton of minutes because he's being forced to learn on the job matching up against experienced defensive minded teams and some of the best point guards in the NBA. I also agree with those of you that point out that Jimmer needs to have plays designed for him to give him an open look rather than some that come his way on a perchance basis. Okay, he's a shooter but we can see that he's starting to show improvement every game. And that goes for his defense too. Yes he loses his man here and there but he is far from being an embarrassment on defense. In just a few games he has positioned himself to be encouraged, just like Marcus Thornton, to make shots for themselves and when you find yourself open go ahead, take the shot. Sure he sometimes gets himself in trouble, but he is a rookie and only has three NBA games under his belt. I tell you what, I'd much rather have Fredette over a point guard that will give you 10 assists and eight points per game because before the season is over I think were going to see him with 20 and 10. I never thought I would be thinking this, but if things continue as they are my vote would be to start Fredette, move Marcus to shooting guard and bring Evans off the bench. Blasphemous!

 

[Glenn]

What's an AL/kfan? Anyway, I agree with you except at the end. I'd start Jimmer and Tyreke. The two of them pulled off some sweet backdoor cuts last night and that gives great hope that Tyreke can work with Jimmer.

Seems like most people are swinging around to agreeing. Jimmer has sold a lot of people very, very fast.

 

[melo]

No way. Not unless Reke is at the 3 or Reke or Thornton is injured. Jimmer is not close to either Reke or Thornton. This Jimmer mania is out of hand.

 

[Aenadin]

I also noticed the moment he gets the ball he either is manned up too tight or doubled, soon as he realizes how to get out of this situations watch out.

also his passing is quite underrated he had some nice passes in his games, knows how to set people up. as far as that is concerned he will be a great starter for us

defensively he will get better, he will not lead the league in steals but if he can keep up with his man or at least have a good defensive scheme we'd be ok.

question guys, how do you rate his speed? i am hearing he is underrated athlete. and I'm not going to judge him as speedy when he was being guarded by moldy derek fisher one game

which kind of makes me think what could've been if we re did 2009 draft