De'Aaron Fox Traded to Spurs for Zach Lavine, three first round picks

[iowamcnabb]

Take a deep breath folks, we needed this off our chest. We have assets now, monte has never really had enough picks to work with. let’s see what happens nextzp. Also Sidy is only 20 and has some real potential

 

[KingsFanSince85]

If that pick does not convey THIS YEAR - which it will almost certainly not - it converts to two seconds. Unless they sneak into the playoffs this year (LOL) it's two seconds.

The fact that this CHA pick won’t end up being a FRP makes this a loser deal IMO.

If the KINGS had a reasonable shot at top pick in 2025, then I’d see it differently.

But a soon to be 30-year old, defense deficient Lavine and two FRP’s (destined to be outside the lottery) for De’Aaron Fox? Sorry, but I’m not seeing the excitement.

Yes, I realize there were additional players and 2nd round picks involved in the deal, but those aren’t the key pieces. It’s really Fox for Lavine and 2 non-lottery FRP’s.

Buzzkill trade for me. Definitely nothing to get excited over.

 

[Fantazija]

So Ham considers Fox a 1A but LaVine isn’t even a 3rd option. Did I hear that right?

A perception of this trade will depend how one values Fox and LaVine.Going strictly by how those 2 performed this year it's hard to not at least call this trade as really solid for the Kings( and very very good for Spurs)

 

[TaxMan]

If we were not going to blow up this team there realistically aren’t a lot of win now players, at an all star/fringe all star level, that are playing better than Levine. He needs to stay healthy and Monte needs to go out and find at a minimum a roll player wing.

 

[SacTownKid]

There's really no point in Keegan Murray exerting any effort on defense. If the other 4 players on the court with him are Lavine, Monk, DeRozan, and Sabonis then teams are going to be able to do what they want anyway. He might as well let players just get by him since that's what the others will be doing.

I think you're underrating how bad the defense was with Fox and Monk out there. 26th last count. Can't see it getting much worse in the interim haha.

 

[Tetsujin]

He already concluded Keegan was Harrison Barnes/Marvin Williams the day he was drafted.

That’s even more optimistic than he actually was lol. Dude thought Keegan was like a small ball five who would be destroyed on defense if the Kings played him on the wing.

 

[LoungeLizard]

Finally had to turn off the stream. Ham is Ham and the other dude blaming the front office for not being able to put a superteam around Fox was just too much. He's out there claiming that "Cam Johnson was not going to fix this" but somehow blames the front office for not finding the magic beans that turn into a player way better than Cam Johnson? I can't even.

Yeah, the other dude (Kyle Madsen I believe) is a Warriors fan, that’s all you need to know about him

 

[SacTownKid]

Spurs won this deal though. Crazy they kept their young guys and still lots of picks … Spurs should make another move now, can easily get John Collins for Barnes or Johnson for a pick or 2. Fox-Castle-Vassell-Collins-Wemby starting 5 pretty legit & can grow together.

They were never not going to. If LaVine can stay healthy and keep it up, there might be some people wondering how the Kings got a stash of picks with him. Lets see.

 

[sactowndog]

I was going to make a "I'll wait until sactowndog weighs in on this" joke, but he beat me too the punch by weighing in on it in typical sactowndog fashion!

That being said, I'm certainly not wow'd by this

I wanted help in the front court. Cidy is averaging a whole 3.2 minutes a game and 1.3 pts a game. Some of you complained about Smith.

this trade does nothing to improve our currently poor defense which just got worse, does not balance our roster in any way, nor does it provide any near term draft help.

But of course you all would cheer any deal Monte makes.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Spurs won this deal though. Crazy they kept their young guys and still lots of picks … Spurs should make another move now, can easily get John Collins for Barnes or Johnson for a pick or 2. Fox-Castle-Vassell-Collins-Wemby starting 5 pretty legit & can grow together.

they did and they can thank being the second luckiest franchise and klutch for that. I’ll root for HB and Fox as individuals but will be actively rooting against that franchise

 

[upinsmoke]

I think you're underrating how bad the defense was with Fox and Monk out there. 26th last count. Can't see it getting much worse in the interim haha.

HEY! Have you learned nothing about being a Kings fan? Never challenge worse.

 

[iowamcnabb]

Can we ban Spursreporter from internet now?

 

[Makaveli]

How did the spurs absorb extra 10 million in salary?

 

[Folsomkingsfan]

I think you're underrating how bad the defense was with Fox and Monk out there. 26th last count. Can't see it getting much worse in the interim haha.

Lavine is a worse defender than Fox (at least according to Def Rating, Def Raptor, and the eye test. This might take us to 30th

 

[Capt. Factorial]

So as it stands right now, we look about like this:

Monk/Carter
LaVine/Ellis
DeRozan
Murray/Lyles
Sabonis

With Len, Cissoko, Colby, McDermott, and Crowder on the bench, and Isaac, Mason, and Crawford on two-ways

We definitely have room to elevate Isaac if we don't do anything else and the top eight in the lineup seem pretty obvious. I'm not really sure if Cissoko is going to be worth anything or not, but he's got another year on his deal for us to figure that out.

 

[SacTownKid]

HEY! Have you learned nothing about being a Kings fan? Never challenge worse.

As Kings fans, we'd survive 3-4 worse at this point lol.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886239220794277943

this really does feel like the deadline where people wanted Monte fired for ”doing nothing” then immediately rioted as he did a massive roster overhaul at the deadline only for all the deals he made to all work out.

 

[Caccia]

Monk was just handed the keys to the Porsche. Let's find out how well (and how fast) he can drive.

 

[iowamcnabb]

So as it stands right now, we look about like this:

Monk/Carter
LaVine/Ellis
DeRozan
Murray/Lyles
Sabonis

With Len, Cissoko, Colby, McDermott, and Crowder on the bench, and Isaac, Mason, and Crawford on two-ways

We definitely have room to elevate Isaac if we don't do anything else and the top eight in the lineup seem pretty obvious. I'm not really sure if Cissoko is going to be worth anything or not, but he's got another year on his deal for us to figure that out.

we dropped in salary with this, do you know where we are on that?

 

[Rob-The-Great]

Ok then why was 90% of the board dissing people in June when we were throwing out trades for Lavine involving barnes/huerter? I like Lavine but the switch up is insane and we can’t start monk/lavine/derozan

I honestly have no idea. I always liked lavine. Add the fact he's having a career year, add the fact that we normally get completely owned when trading, got 3 frp got the shooting we need. Got rid of a player that was killing us and got a player under contract.

Like what's not to like here.

Now yes I'm warming on getting a real pf instead of deebo but that can be addressed if things don't work out. We now have a legit 3 level scoring threat

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886233888046866559

Just send us Torrey in the trade.

 

[Jdbraver137]

This is a more than fair trade

 

[Makaveli]

we dropped in salary with this, do you know where we are on that?

We dropped 5 mil

 

[Letsgokings13]

Something I just remembered. Lavine is a Seattle guy like
Doug. Dont they know each other well?

 

[SacTownKid]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1886239220794277943

this really does feel like the deadline where people wanted Monte fired for ”doing nothing” then immediately rioted as he did a massive roster overhaul at the deadline only for all the deals he made to all work out.

There are a lot of 2nds to push for some length. Too bad DFS got moved so early.

 

[Light it up]

I like It. We stay competitive and gain some draft capital. Swing SA’s 2027 1st to Utah for Collins.

 

[captain bill]

Monk was just handed the keys to the Porsche. Let's find out how well (and how fast) he can drive.

Kings 200 point game still on the menu

 

[Tetsujin]

There are a lot of 2nds to push for some length. Too bad DFS got moved so early.

Seeing how meh he’s been in LA, it’s probably for the best lol

 

[Fantazija]

I wanted help in the front court. Cidy is averaging a whole 3.2 minutes a game and 1.3 pts a game. Some of you complained about Smith.

this trade does nothing to improve our currently poor defense which just got worse, does not balance our roster in any way, nor does it provide any near term draft help.

But of course you all would cheer any deal Monte makes.

I would agree on the part about not balancing the roster and that defense didn't get better( didn't get worse either, Fox was atrocious defensively this year imo).But only if Monte doesn't make any moves to address those things, he still has time, let's wait before complaining

 

[Jdbraver137]

Kings 200 point game still on the menu

They had the leverage. We made out fine