Only DeMarcus Cousins trade rumor thread
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Seriously grieving right now. I just don't know what to do with myself.
Surely no-one wanted this, even those who wanted to trade Cousins can't be happy with what we've been left with.
The strangest part is being completely torn on how to approach my fandom now. I want to tune in to the next game and support the players we have, because I am a Kings fan and I want success for my team, but I just feel so betrayed by those in charge that I don't know if I can stomach it.
Is this the end?
Surely no-one wanted this, even those who wanted to trade Cousins can't be happy with what we've been left with.
The strangest part is being completely torn on how to approach my fandom now. I want to tune in to the next game and support the players we have, because I am a Kings fan and I want success for my team, but I just feel so betrayed by those in charge that I don't know if I can stomach it.
Is this the end?
Yeah but then how would be have gotten our grubby lil hands on the world beater known as Buddy Hield hrm? That's what I thought. Just leave all the hard and important decisions to the Kings brain trust. Have they ever let us down before? 
you know, vivek probably really liked what he saw in the boston game. that sealed cuz's fate with the kings. the way the return in trade have been when dismissive chap meddled... we usually receive squat. makes me wonder if pda was just a puppet.
Is that why you think Vivek said these things?
I only had about an 8 or 10 minute little meeting with him. I found him to be a very arrogant and dismissive little chap. He doesn’t seem to understand that he owns it. He was the one that came in with Basketball 3.0, and changing the culture, “I have the smartest guys in the room, they’re four steps ahead of everybody else, I have 80 gigs of data, nobody else has that.” Well, okay, you know?
Is that why you think Vivek said these things?
I only had about an 8 or 10 minute little meeting with him. I found him to be a very arrogant and dismissive little chap. He doesn’t seem to understand that he owns it. He was the one that came in with Basketball 3.0, and changing the culture, “I have the smartest guys in the room, they’re four steps ahead of everybody else, I have 80 gigs of data, nobody else has that.” Well, okay, you know?
What I felt yesterday was essentially a magnified version of what I felt when I woke up to hear that Malone was fired.
Not even anger, just complete disbelief. Not that Malone was the 2nd coming of Red Auerbach but he had the team buying in and playing hard. He was doing a decent job and couldn't fathom how anyone thought firing him would improve things.
Same thing here. Just at a complete loss to explain why the Kings would do this. Except this time around the stakes were so much higher. Cousins was the only asset that this team had.
I know Grant will paint this as addition by subtraction and point to Toronto improving when Rudy left and the Celtics win without Boogie but the stats don't back up either of those arguments.
DMC isn't Rudy. Gay's efficiency plummeted after a certain usage level. He wasn't made to be a lead dog. Cousins might have shot a low percentage for a big owing to his style and volume/variety of shots but he often put the team on his back and carried them.
And the Boston game was an aberration. I'm too frustrated right now to bother but at some point I'll compile the Kings record when Boogie was out of the lineup over his whole career. When I last did it (before the KHTK event with PDA) they had a losing percentage on par with the purposely tanking 76ers.
This was a terrible move by a terrible organization with a terrible owner.
Vivek has already shown a penchant for trying to son and re-write history so I'm guessing that as the criticism mounts we'll hear more about how he was "against" this deal but left it to his basketball people. And if so that's complete garbage. He HIRED his GM and he's ultimately responsible for the success or failure of this franchise. We'll just failure so far. Failure after failure with lots of confusion and broken trust thrown in for good measure.
I hope the Kings turn it around. But for the sake of my sanity I'm taking a break, cancelling cable and not watching any more games this season.
Not even anger, just complete disbelief. Not that Malone was the 2nd coming of Red Auerbach but he had the team buying in and playing hard. He was doing a decent job and couldn't fathom how anyone thought firing him would improve things.
Same thing here. Just at a complete loss to explain why the Kings would do this. Except this time around the stakes were so much higher. Cousins was the only asset that this team had.
I know Grant will paint this as addition by subtraction and point to Toronto improving when Rudy left and the Celtics win without Boogie but the stats don't back up either of those arguments.
DMC isn't Rudy. Gay's efficiency plummeted after a certain usage level. He wasn't made to be a lead dog. Cousins might have shot a low percentage for a big owing to his style and volume/variety of shots but he often put the team on his back and carried them.
And the Boston game was an aberration. I'm too frustrated right now to bother but at some point I'll compile the Kings record when Boogie was out of the lineup over his whole career. When I last did it (before the KHTK event with PDA) they had a losing percentage on par with the purposely tanking 76ers.
This was a terrible move by a terrible organization with a terrible owner.
Vivek has already shown a penchant for trying to son and re-write history so I'm guessing that as the criticism mounts we'll hear more about how he was "against" this deal but left it to his basketball people. And if so that's complete garbage. He HIRED his GM and he's ultimately responsible for the success or failure of this franchise. We'll just failure so far. Failure after failure with lots of confusion and broken trust thrown in for good measure.
I hope the Kings turn it around. But for the sake of my sanity I'm taking a break, cancelling cable and not watching any more games this season.
You know why I liked the idea of trading Boogie to Boston? Well, it was mostly because the Celtics could offer up so much more than the hot garbage sandwich they got from New Orleans. I had it as Cousins, McLemore & Casspi for Amir Johnson, Jaylen Brown and Jerebko along with the Nets pick swap this year. Ideally Vlade would also nab next year's Nets pick but if Ainge wouldn't go that far then maybe Rozier, the rights to Zizek and/or a future 1st from Boston or LAC or Memphis.
But the OTHER reason I preferred that route was it didn't mean rooting against Cousins. The Celtics could win a title and it wouldn't affect the Kings haul. And that Nets pick would be top 4 and likely top 3.
Now? Kings fans have to hope the Pelicans flounder and end up with a lottery pick (as long as it's not top 3) while also hoping the Kings collapse (very likely) do there pick increases in value while ALSO hoping the Sixers don't win too much.
It's the Kings so things won't break their way. It's likely that they just gave away the best big man in the league and will only have a mediocre shooting guard and two (possibly just one) mid 1st rounders to show for it. Awful.
But the OTHER reason I preferred that route was it didn't mean rooting against Cousins. The Celtics could win a title and it wouldn't affect the Kings haul. And that Nets pick would be top 4 and likely top 3.
Now? Kings fans have to hope the Pelicans flounder and end up with a lottery pick (as long as it's not top 3) while also hoping the Kings collapse (very likely) do there pick increases in value while ALSO hoping the Sixers don't win too much.
It's the Kings so things won't break their way. It's likely that they just gave away the best big man in the league and will only have a mediocre shooting guard and two (possibly just one) mid 1st rounders to show for it. Awful.
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Wow what a night. Even me, as a very vocal critic of Vlade, am surprised. Did you all read the Woj article? According to him Vivek didn't want to trade DMC but was talked into it by Vlade and his clown team.
I have been told over and over, by people close to the Kings management, that Vlade is making the decisions and Vivek has given him more room. Vivek loved DMC, but over time was convinced we cannot win with him? I guess we are going to win with Papa lol. What a joke.
Sorry guys I have been so vocal over the past six months. Some people attacked me, some ignored me, some criticized me, and some agreed, but now you can see what I was saying. I was scared for my team and last night my fears came true.
I have been told over and over, by people close to the Kings management, that Vlade is making the decisions and Vivek has given him more room. Vivek loved DMC, but over time was convinced we cannot win with him? I guess we are going to win with Papa lol. What a joke.
Sorry guys I have been so vocal over the past six months. Some people attacked me, some ignored me, some criticized me, and some agreed, but now you can see what I was saying. I was scared for my team and last night my fears came true.
The problem that most have with this try is, how the heck did Blade get so little in return for essentially 28pts, 11 rebs & 5 assist?
Not one all star & one 1 first round pick?
I have to think that Vivek had cold feet on paying Boogie that $219 million that he promised & decided to trade him. Vivek is supposedly kind of tight with money after buying the team. For some owners, their team is just a toy. For vivek, he needs it for profit.
Not one all star & one 1 first round pick?
I have to think that Vivek had cold feet on paying Boogie that $219 million that he promised & decided to trade him. Vivek is supposedly kind of tight with money after buying the team. For some owners, their team is just a toy. For vivek, he needs it for profit.
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