Tyrese Watch 2022-23

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501384225861378049

 

[Tetsujin]

Haliburton sitting on 25 while Pacers went thru Brogdon who was at 8 into the end of the fourth and he gave up the game w a bad turnover. Should expect the Pacers to try to move him but it will be tough. They owe Buddy & Brogdon a combined $100mm+ over the next 2+3 seasons after this one but that doesn’t necessarily conflict with the timelines for extensions to Tyrese and whoever they get this year

Turner is expiring next season too.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501390762432466951

 

[SLAB]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501390762432466951

Picked a good time to revert to first month of the season Ty.

 

[captain bill]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501390762432466951

Between this and the Jalen Smith foul that was one of the best executed tank jobs you’ll ever see

 

[coolhandluke]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501390762432466951

Yikes. Even Ben Simmons would have been shocked.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1501987864103501834

TJ Warren pretty much hasn't played a game in two whole seasons.

 

[Tetsujin]

Feels like Tyrese has gotten worse and worse the longer he’s played for the Pacers.

 

[ockingsfan]

Feels like Tyrese has gotten worse and worse the longer he’s played for the Pacers.

Agreed, it seemed to have started when Malcolm Brogdon came back. When Tyrese is the clear #1, he thrived (like when Fox was out). When Brogdon came back to reclaim his #1 spot, Hali kinda of faded. Much like when he shared the back court with Fox. He seems to take a back seat and dials back his game to accommodate the more established alpha player.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1503897671039287298

Pacers playing defense like the Like Walton Kings.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1503898792432750595

*shrugs* shoulda traded for Fox

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1503894225850621956

The Pacers have reached the desperate hopelessness of the Kangz experience

 

[steelevt]

What I don’t understand is when they lose, their fans say they’re trying to tank. But they aren’t “resting” key players and still giving buddy and brogdon more minutes vs youngs like Duarte and jalen smith. Doesn’t look like they’re trying to tank but honestly I don’t watch many of their games or know about the team.

 

[The_Jamal]

What I don’t understand is when they lose, their fans say they’re trying to tank. But they aren’t “resting” key players and still giving buddy and brogdon more minutes vs youngs like Duarte and jalen smith. Doesn’t look like they’re trying to tank but honestly I don’t watch many of their games or know about the team.

Yeah tanking isn't playing Buddy/Brog/Hali, their 3 best players right now, 38+ minutes a night in competitive games.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1505147217409159174

 

[pdxKingsFan]

That's wild. I like Hali so I'm not being snarky but the "he plays great with everyone unlike Fox" thing not really looking like a great take rn.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

That's wild. I like Hali so I'm not being snarky but the "he plays great with everyone unlike Fox" thing not really looking like a great take rn.

I've been saying since before the Sabonis trade rumors started heating up that Haliburton is just a younger version of Brogdon. So, of course, Haliburton's production would go down when he has to share the court with Brogdon: they essentially have the same role in the offense. That's part of why I never really believed that there was going to be a Fox-for-Sabonis trade, whether it's true that McNair was trying to get rid of Fox or not, because that would have just made the Kings into a younger version of the Pacers team that already wasn't working.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

I've been saying since before the Sabonis trade rumors started heating up that Haliburton is just a younger version of Brogdon. So, of course, Haliburton's production would go down when he has to share the court with Brogdon: they essentially have the same role in the offense. That's part of why I never really believed that there was going to be a Fox-for-Sabonis trade, whether it's true that McNair was trying to get rid of Fox or not, because that would have just made the Kings into a younger version of the Pacers team that already wasn't working.

or would it have made the Pacers an older Kings? especially with Buddy (although would have to assume he'd not have been part of a Fox deal)

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

or would it have made the Pacers an older Kings? especially with Buddy (although would have to assume he'd not have been part of a Fox deal)

It would have also made the Pacers an older version of the Kings, I just didn't feel the need to point that out on a Sacramento Kings message board; what do y'all care what happens to the Pacers?

 

[pdxKingsFan]

It would have also made the Pacers an older version of the Kings, I just didn't feel the need to point that out on a Sacramento Kings message board; what do y'all care what happens to the Pacers?

I don't care about anything other than potentially drafting higher than them this year, so if they all wanna come out and have a revenge game Wednesday I'm ok with that.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1506021259208904705

 

[Tetsujin]

Pacers respond to last night’s loss by resting Rick Carlisle and are currently down 40 to the Ja-less Grizzlies.

 

[Spike]

Pacers respond to last night’s loss by resting Rick Carlisle and are currently down 40 to the Ja-less Grizzlies.

Unpossible.
If Ja was playing, would they have won by 60 or lost by 20? I can't remember how it works.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1507520261746216961

Congrats Pacers, you’d have successfully recreated a slightly worse version of the 2021 Kings!

 

[pdxKingsFan]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1507520261746216961

Congrats Pacers, you’d have successfully recreated a slightly worse version of the 2021 Kings!

I'm there for the empty stats. Also if they pick in front of us that's one player I don't want off the board, no harm no foul.

 

[Tetsujin]

With Tyrese's shot regressing to the mean. (He's a great shooter but not 47% from three great like he was immediately after the trade), the Pacers are starting to just get absolutely throttled by other teams. I get that they're not exactly trying to win right now but they played an 8 man rotation and got blown out by 40 by the Raptors.

 

[pdxKingsFan]

With Tyrese's shot regressing to the mean. (He's a great shooter but not 47% from three great like he was immediately after the trade), the Pacers are starting to just get absolutely throttled by other teams. I get that they're not exactly trying to win right now but they played an 8 man rotation and got blown out by 40 by the Raptors.

They traded 1 all-star level guy and 2 rotation players for 1 potential all-star and 2 scrubs, one they promptly waived. So yeah, they may have had a little bit of a honeymoon period but they are 2-3 years away from 2-3 years away.

 

[Tetsujin]

They traded 1 all-star level guy and 2 rotation players for 1 potential all-star and 2 scrubs, one they promptly waived. So yeah, they may have had a little bit of a honeymoon period but they are 2-3 years away from 2-3 years away.

Yeah, but at least they're tanking for that 5th overall pick the right way!

 

[pdxKingsFan]

Yeah, but at least they're tanking for that 5th overall pick the right way!

I will not cry if they are the team that gets jumped by 2 behind them.

 

[206Fan]

I haven't kept up with Tyrese recently, but I just took a look at his shot attempts... they have not been good.

In his last few games, these have been his FGM-FGA:

• 2-7
• 4-9
• 4-14
• 4-8
• 4-9
• 2-10

I know he's only a 2nd year player, but he can't be this passive as a scorer. I think they need to surround him with some good vets to instill more confidence in him. I'm hoping all the "future All-Star" hype won't hinder his development.