[NBA] Comments that don't warrant a thread (DEC)

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Just watching Mitchell blossom in Utah and handle clutch situations with ease while we messed up another draft by trading down and not selecting him. Vlades drafting has been attroicious.
 
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Mitchell is a pleasure to watch, gotta admit. Dude is solid.
Just watching Mitchell blossom in Utah and handle clutch situations with ease while we messed up another draft by trading down and not selecting him. Vlades drafting has been attroicious.
Going to be like Marcus Smart with offense. Wish we had him.
I highly doubt Mitchell would even get the opportunity to prove himself here. We have Fox who's forced to play in an offense built around Randolph. Mitchell has a greenlight in Utah right now.

Earlier in the season, he had a 3-21 shooting game. You can't tell me Joerger wouldn't have immediately sent him to the GLeague for that performance. He wouldn't see the light of day. Utah actually lets Mitchell play through his mistakes. They actually let him get into his offense even if it takes 15shots. On the other hand, Joerger has no problem immediately yanking out Skal or Buddy for defensive lapses.

Vlade sucks as a talent evaluator, but I doubt Mitchell would even get PT under Joerger.
 
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I said earlier in the season no one plays harder than Mitchell and the guy is carrying a team missing Hood (been TRASH all year) and Gobert, I really also think the Jazz being forced into playing Jerekbo (who should have been playing all year) has helped a lot to the guy fits with them perfectly.

It sucks to think that Buddy's play in meaningless games and bringing over Bogie might have cost a shot at Mitchell but than again image how Denver might feel imagine him with Jokic feeding him passes.

At the rate Anthony Davis gets hurt like every week they should seriously considering sending him to Boston for Tatum/Brown/whatever else. Great player but every other game the guy is on the floor rolling around with pain.
 
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kingsboi

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I highly doubt Mitchell would even get the opportunity to prove himself here. We have Fox who's forced to play in an offense built around Randolph. Mitchell has a greenlight in Utah right now.

Earlier in the season, he had a 3-21 shooting game. You can't tell me Joerger wouldn't have immediately sent him to the GLeague for that performance. He wouldn't see the light of day. Utah actually lets Mitchell play through his mistakes. They actually let him get into his offense even if it takes 15shots. On the other hand, Joerger has no problem immediately yanking out Skal or Buddy for defensive lapses.

Vlade sucks as a talent evaluator, but I doubt Mitchell would even get PT under Joerger.
the Kings did bring him in for a workout so they obviously had an eye on him & interest
 

kingsboi

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I said earlier in the season no one plays harder than Mitchell and the guy is carrying a team missing Hood (been TRASH all year) and Gobert, I really also think the Jazz being forced into playing Jerekbo (who should have been playing all year) has helped a lot to the guy fits with them perfectly.

It sucks to think that Buddy's play in meaningless games and bringing over Bogie might have cost a shot at Mitchell but than again image how Denver might feel imagine him with Jokic feeding him passes.

At the rate Anthony Davis gets hurt like every week they should seriously considering sending him to Boston for Tatum/Brown/whatever else. Great player but every other game the guy is on the floor rolling around with pain.
It seems that his sudden growth spurt in high school was a blessing & curse because for all we know, that much of a growth spurt may of shook his body more than we know.
 
#11
DMC leads his Peli's over the Blazers with Anthony Davis (yet again) hurt.

38 points, but was slacking with only 8 rebs and 0 assists.

I get quite happy every time the swag hustlin' Pelican pops up on my timeline. :p
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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HOT TAEK ALERT: Portland would have won that game last night, if Terry Stotts had left Meyers Leonard on the bench.

I get quite happy every time the swag hustlin' Pelican pops up on my timeline. :p
Yo, he has ALL the swag... that's the real Swaggy P, right there!
 
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Anyone else think it would be interesting if the Celtics made a move for both Davis & Cousins and assembled a big 4 of Irving, Hayward, Davis, & Cousins (@CelticsFan )? I think they have the assets to get it done:

2018 BOS 1st
2018 BOS 2nd
2019 SAC/PHI 1st (More favorable of the two)
2019 MEM 1st (top 8 protected)
2019 LAC 1st (top 14 protected)
2019 BOS 1st
2019 DET 2nd
2020 BOS 1st
2020 BOS 2nd
2021 BOS 1st
2021 BOS 2nd
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Guerschon Yabusele
Terry Rozier

I think ideally, they would like to keep one of Tatum or Brown to round out their 5 man starting lineup (Irving-Hayward-Brown/Tatum-Davis-Cousins), but I'm not sure NOP would do it without getting both. I think something like Tatum, Brown, 2019 SAC-PHI 1st, & 2019 MEM 1st could be close.
 
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I don't think they would go after Cousins, if they really like him they would go after him in the offseason and keep their assets.

When it comes to Davis I'm sure Ainge would at least kick the tires, but I would pass. Davis is a huge talent no doubt I just think Boston would have to pay up and I reluctantly wouldn't want to give up what I would expect Davis to be worth.

Both Tatum (19) and Brown (20) are both starters on a team with the best record in the league, that's really rare. Tatum is leading the NBA in 3pt fg% and Brown is a very versatile defender, he has show some nice offense at times this season. I think NO would want both of those guys plus a lot more including the Lakers pick this year if it lands 2-5 or the 2019 Kings pick next year which I expect to be a top 5 pick. These 3 assets IMO are very valuable, to add even more to this when you are already a top team is too much. Celtics are in a very unique position
 
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I don't think they would go after Cousins, if they really like him they would go after him in the offseason and keep their assets.

When it comes to Davis I'm sure Ainge would at least kick the tires, but I would pass. Davis is a huge talent no doubt I just think Boston would have to pay up and I reluctantly wouldn't want to give up what I would expect Davis to be worth.

Both Tatum (19) and Brown (20) are both starters on a team with the best record in the league, that's really rare. Tatum is leading the NBA in 3pt fg% and Brown is a very versatile defender, he has show some nice offense at times this season. I think NO would want both of those guys plus a lot more including the Lakers pick this year if it lands 2-5 or the 2019 Kings pick next year which I expect to be a top 5 pick. These 3 assets IMO are very valuable, to add even more to this when you are already a top team is too much. Celtics are in a very unique position
Boston doesn't have cap space to do this so there would need to be a trade to attain his bird rights.
 
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Anyone else think it would be interesting if the Celtics made a move for both Davis & Cousins and assembled a big 4 of Irving, Hayward, Davis, & Cousins (@CelticsFan )? I think they have the assets to get it done:

2018 BOS 1st
2018 BOS 2nd
2019 SAC/PHI 1st (More favorable of the two)
2019 MEM 1st (top 8 protected)
2019 LAC 1st (top 14 protected)
2019 BOS 1st
2019 DET 2nd
2020 BOS 1st
2020 BOS 2nd
2021 BOS 1st
2021 BOS 2nd
Jayson Tatum
Jaylen Brown
Marcus Smart
Guerschon Yabusele
Terry Rozier

I think ideally, they would like to keep one of Tatum or Brown to round out their 5 man starting lineup (Irving-Hayward-Brown/Tatum-Davis-Cousins), but I'm not sure NOP would do it without getting both. I think something like Tatum, Brown, 2019 SAC-PHI 1st, & 2019 MEM 1st could be close.

This violates the Stepien rule. A team is not allowed to trade first round draft picks in successive seasons. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-the-ted-stepien-rule-325791
 

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This violates the Stepien rule. A team is not allowed to trade first round draft picks in successive seasons. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-the-ted-stepien-rule-325791
I believe that was a comprehensive list of draft assets held by the Celtics, from which some could be selected for use in a trade, and not a proposal to send every single draft asset the Celtics possess at once. The more specific proposal at the bottom only suggested sending two draft picks.
 
#24
This violates the Stepien rule. A team is not allowed to trade first round draft picks in successive seasons. https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-the-ted-stepien-rule-325791
Actually, it doesn't.

The Celtics would be guaranteed to have their own 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 BOS 1st, 2020 BOS 1st, & 2021 BOS 1st. They wouldn't have consecutive years of 1st round picks missing. In fact, they wouldn't have any years without a 1st round pick.

Teams are required to have only a first round pick, and not necessarily their own first round pick. Teams may trade away their own future picks in consecutive years if they already own another team's unconditional first round pick in one of those years. For example, if this is the 2017-18 season and a team has already traded away its 2019 first round pick, it cannot trade its 2018 pick. However, if it acquires another team's first round pick in either 2018 or 2019, its own 2018 pick can then be traded.
http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89
 
#25
Actually, it doesn't.

The Celtics would be guaranteed to have their own 2018 BOS 1st, 2019 BOS 1st, 2020 BOS 1st, & 2021 BOS 1st. They wouldn't have consecutive years of 1st round picks missing. In fact, they wouldn't have any years without a 1st round pick.


http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q89
I misunderstood your original post. Your explanation is correct. I thought you were suggesting that all the listed assets could be traded to obtain AD and Boogie.
 

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#26
I don't know what the hell it is about Gentry's coaching that New Orleans can't play with a lead, but every time they get off to a hot start, they end up eating an embarrassing loss, but they seem to win more than they lose when trailing after 1Q.
 
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Man, Brooklyn may not have their own high picks they gave away to Boston but they're doing a good job getting young potentially high-upside pieces.

I know I would absolutely love to have both De'Angelo Russell and Jhalil Okafor. And Sauce Castillo, definitely the icing on the cake. :p
 

kingsboi

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am I reading this right? Okafor, the corpse of Stauskas & a 2nd rounder all for a Trevor Booker? Didn't realize Okafor's value plummeted to that extent. Should of traded him to New Orleans when they had a chance.
 
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