I'm just speechless

Do you think Musselman's coaching in this game left much to be desired?

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ezekielbear

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there are no words right now for my feelings about Eric.
I...can't even grasp the correct word.

I need a brick wall...to run into about 20 times.

:confused:

Then a car to run me over.
 
How about that Musselman had the Kings in the game against a very good team on the road? Look, all Ron had to do was not fumble the ball away and get a shot. It's not brain surgery.

Seriously, it's gotten a little knee jerk around here to blame Musselman for everything in the world. Including things that are completely outside of his control.
 
ezekielbear said:
there are no words right now for my feelings about Eric right now.

I...can't even grasp the correct word.

I need a brick wall...to run into about 20 times.

:confused:
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I am really wondering - "what does it take to get a coach fired?" Seriously... he is in over his head - completely horrible. I'm pretty ticked. Give the team to Whisenant, or Brooks, or Jerry Reynolds, or ... anybody.
 
nbrans said:
How about that Musselman had the Kings in the game against a very good team on the road? Look, all Ron had to do was not fumble the ball away and get a shot. It's not brain surgery.

Seriously, it's gotten a little knee jerk around here to blame Musselman for everything in the world. Including things that are completely outside of his control.
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Um...why did Ron have the ball anyway? That's problem #1 right there.

You're right, it's not brain surgery.

That's why you have guards...to handle the ball.

He wants to get Ron the ball with 10 seconds left? That's fine.

Not sitting at the half court line with 24 seconds.

I've never been on the fire Eric bandwagon yet but that was plain awful.
 
nbrans said:
How about that Musselman had the Kings in the game against a very good team on the road? Look, all Ron had to do was not fumble the ball away and get a shot. It's not brain surgery.

Seriously, it's gotten a little knee jerk around here to blame Musselman for everything in the world. Including things that are completely outside of his control.
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Muss let his team get run over out there and didn't call a single time out. That's the thing... I have not been beating a "fire Muss" drum - but this game seemed like it could have used a composed head coach to instill a little confidence and poise down the stretch. Not a nervous handwringer fretting on the sideline. Horrible
 
If you watched the Rockets feed the commentators made a very good point. They said when the Rockets were down to one timeout and JVG had just called one they said "Jeff is very good at calling timeouts at the right time. He never lets the game get too far out of hand. And they always have a pretty good play to get a couple of points and cool off the other team" Muss? Biggest play of the game... and what? Nothing... And what did the Kings do? Nothing...
 
nbrans said:
How about that Musselman had the Kings in the game against a very good team on the road? Look, all Ron had to do was not fumble the ball away and get a shot. It's not brain surgery.

Seriously, it's gotten a little knee jerk around here to blame Musselman for everything in the world. Including things that are completely outside of his control.
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Thank you.

I completly agree.

And there was nothing wrong with the Ron play...What, do you actually want Bibby shooting the ball?

:rolleyes:
 
nbrans said:
How about that Musselman had the Kings in the game against a very good team on the road? Look, all Ron had to do was not fumble the ball away and get a shot. It's not brain surgery.

Seriously, it's gotten a little knee jerk around here to blame Musselman for everything in the world. Including things that are completely outside of his control.
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Sorry, but I totally disagree. Musselman could have/should have called a time out at some point during the momentum-changing run the Rockets had. Instead, he looked like a deer lost in the headlights...again.

Artest and Martin were our leading scorers in the first half and yet, for some reason, Martin languished on the bench for extended minutes again in the second half.

If there was a play called coming out of the time out just before Salmons burned about 17 seconds before losing the ball out of bounds, I'd sure like to know what it was. That's also on Musselman.

Sorry, but his coaching efforts were not impressive tonight.
 
SacKings384 said:
If you watched the Rockets feed the commentators made a very good point. They said when the Rockets were down to one timeout and JVG had just called one they said "Jeff is very good at calling timeouts at the right time. He never lets the game get too far out of hand. And they always have a pretty good play to get a couple of points and cool off the other team" Muss? Biggest play of the game... and what? Nothing... And what did the Kings do? Nothing...
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I agree...the rockets commentators made some very good points. Like why did Salmons have the ball with under 10 seconds to play?
 
ezekielbear said:
Um...why did Ron have the ball anyway? That's problem #1 right there.

You're right, it's not brain surgery.

That's why you have guards...to handle the ball.

He wants to get Ron the ball with 10 seconds left? That's fine.

Not sitting at the half court line with 24 seconds.

I've never been on the fire Eric bandwagon yet but that was plain awful.
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Ron had the ball because he was on fire and had scored 37 points. The play was to set a pick for him, let him come off and get a shot. Ron was just holding the ball waiting for the play to develop and he just lost his concentration.

And Muss did call a timeout when the Rockets made their run -- I would have called it one earlier, but Battier got lucky with that crazy three.

Look, the Rockets are good. We're not. They shut Kevin down in the final minutes of the game. They have Tracy McGrady. We don't. That's a bigger problem than Musselman.
 
VF21 said:
Sorry, but I totally disagree. Musselman could have/should have called a time out at some point during the momentum-changing run the Rockets had. Instead, he looked like a deer lost in the headlights...again.

Artest and Martin were our leading scorers in the first half and yet, for some reason, Martin languished on the bench for extended minutes again in the second half.

If there was a play called coming out of the time out just before Salmons burned about 17 seconds before losing the ball out of bounds, I'd sure like to know what it was. That's also on Musselman.

Sorry, but his coaching efforts were not impressive tonight.
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He did call timeout during that run. Again, I might have called it one sooner, but he did call timeout. Martin was on the bench because he was dead tired, and he came back with 6:30. Salmons got the ball on a broken play. I mean...
 
im just really disappointed in our head coach. he seems like he is lost out there. he has no knack for coaching IMO. doesnt do a lot of things right and this game just proves it. its a game we should have won and honestly it was his fault.
 
that is one of my main problems with Muss. I do not get why he keeps important players on the bench for extended minutes. Kevin was out too long as was Bibby. Makes no sense.
 
nbrans said:
Ron had the ball because he was on fire and had scored 37 points. The play was to set a pick for him, let him come off and get a shot. Ron was just holding the ball waiting for the play to develop and he just lost his concentration.

And Muss did call a timeout when the Rockets made their run -- I would have called it one earlier, but Battier got lucky with that crazy three.

Look, the Rockets are good. We're not. They shut Kevin down in the final minutes of the game. They have Tracy McGrady. We don't. That's a bigger problem than Musselman.
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There is no way you'll ever get me to agree that Ron Artest should have the ball out there. Ever.

They can set the play up with 10 seconds left. You don't make him sit out there and dribble the damn ball. You hold it until it's time to go.
 
SLAB said:
Thank you.

I completly agree.

And there was nothing wrong with the Ron play...What, do you actually want Bibby shooting the ball?

:rolleyes:
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Yeah, because Bibby has been shooting so well lately and Ron has been shooting so badly.
 
ezekielbear said:
And bad as Bibby has played...the guy is a threat, at all times.

What he's doing on the bench under the 3 min mark...I have no idea.
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The thing is, Bibby is NOT a threat the way hes been playing.

Even if he is doing mediocre, which seems to be his best this year, he is a complete liability on the other end.

It makes sense, and I for one applaud Muss for making the bold move and keeping someone in a yearlong struggle out of the fire.
 
I had zero problem with Ron taking the last shot (or lack there of) in the last play of regulation

Problems I had:
1.The Rockets went on countless runs that could have been stopped midway yet timeouts were only called after it had gotten way out of control
2.The biggest run the 12-0 run could have been easily doused with a timeout after T-Mac ran off 5 straight and a solid play was called to get the Kings 2 points
3.The last play of OT where Salmons fumbled the ball was awful. The Kings needed a 3. The Kings had THREE Timeouts left... There were 32 seconds on the clock. Time is precious. Even the 6-7 seconds left to get the ball across is crucial. Yet no timeout was called. The crowd was still nuts, the players were still hyped up, and the Kings were damn confused on what they were doing.

If you couldn't see those I don't know what to tell you
 
nbrans said:
Yeah, because Bibby has been shooting so well lately and Ron has been shooting so badly.
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Artest had the hot hand. He should have had the ball, but I would not have been shocked or disappointed with Bibby having it. I just think that it looked disjointed for a drawn up play to end the game- like they were unsure of what was really supposed to happen.
 
Meh, can't put this one completely on Muss. Unless you want to criticize the play-calling.

The Kings played very hard tonight, and for the most part very well. Artest had the ball in his hands because he'd been the go-to guy all night long and was hot. Salmons ended up with the ball in OT because the Kings original inbounds play was foiled when K-Mart got stripped. Salmons was clearly not supposed to have the ball and was trying to get it to Bibby.

The knee-jerk reaction around here IS to blame Musselman, and believe me I'm not happy with the guy either... but tonight the players lost the game. T-Mac got hot; Artest fumbles the ball away and a defensive breakdown let Luther Head hit the back-breaking layup to put the Rockets ahead 3. Then Bibby misses a wide-open three.

Maybe Muss coulda done something when T-Mac got hot? Dunno. Really not much you can do about that. We've seen T-Mac go crazy like that plenty before. Honestly I think the Kings did well to hang on there and get to OT.
 
Didnt ron give up the ball after he fell the first time and I believe it was bibby who tossed it right back to him as if the ball was burining his hands. The Rockets are a good team. The Kings arent.

So we fire Muss after ONE YEAR.:confused:

Who do you suppose would make this current squad play consistantly better?
 
VF21 said:
Sorry, but I totally disagree. Musselman could have/should have called a time out at some point during the momentum-changing run the Rockets had. Instead, he looked like a deer lost in the headlights...again.

Artest and Martin were our leading scorers in the first half and yet, for some reason, Martin languished on the bench for extended minutes again in the second half.

If there was a play called coming out of the time out just before Salmons burned about 17 seconds before losing the ball out of bounds, I'd sure like to know what it was. That's also on Musselman.

Sorry, but his coaching efforts were not impressive tonight.
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dude... that's called the "Oden/Durant cool off period"

and it worked to perfection...

i think i might become a Celtics fan:(
 
nbrans said:
He did call timeout during that run. Again, I might have called it one sooner, but he did call timeout. Martin was on the bench because he was dead tired, and he came back with 6:30. Salmons got the ball on a broken play. I mean...
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Dude, if the game was a patient lying bleeding on the pavement, by the time Musselman thought to call a timeout it would have been too late.

If you want to make excuses for pathetic coaching decisions, feel free to do so but from my viewpoint I saw a game that we could have won go down the drain at least partially because of inadequate coaching. Is it the whole reason? Well, of course not but Musselman does NOT instill any kind of confidence in the players coming out of a time out. You could see it in their body language. Or at least I saw it... and, unfortunately, I think the Rockets saw it, too.
 
fansinceday1 said:
Didnt ron give up the ball after he fell the first time and I believe it was bibby who tossed it right back to him as if the ball was burining his hands. The Rockets are a good team. The Kings arent.

So we fire Muss after ONE YEAR.:confused:

Who do you suppose would make this current squad play consistantly better?
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Avery Johnson, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Don Nelson

hell, at this point i'd take Zeke
 
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