If we can't get both, Iggy or Reke?
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You have to go with Tyreke at this point. He had his best season last year statistically, and he is still young. Iguodala has been the better player the last few years, but the gap this past season was narrow, and Iguodala is about to hit thirty.
The only thing that concerns me about giving Tyreke 12 mill, or whatever the Pelicans are offering him, is that he has missed significant time each year to injuries. But that is just a risk we have to take.
The only thing that concerns me about giving Tyreke 12 mill, or whatever the Pelicans are offering him, is that he has missed significant time each year to injuries. But that is just a risk we have to take.
After the hell we just went through with the Maloofs and Seattle, these are truly first-world problems to have as Kings fans.
That said, it's got to be Reke - his prime coincides directly with that of our other cornerstone pieces, as opposed to Iggy, whose age dictates we win right now.
And if I'm Iggy, I make the re-signing of Reke a prerequisite of signing with the Kings, because we're a substantially weaker team without him. That is, if he cares about winning alongside getting the big money.
That said, it's got to be Reke - his prime coincides directly with that of our other cornerstone pieces, as opposed to Iggy, whose age dictates we win right now.
And if I'm Iggy, I make the re-signing of Reke a prerequisite of signing with the Kings, because we're a substantially weaker team without him. That is, if he cares about winning alongside getting the big money.
Me too. This board has heavy Evans bias. CD did a twitter poll that came out opposite this one - a landslide for Iggy. I vote Iggy just because... might as well be on board - looks like it is going that way. But I'm happy to have this class of problem, as someone else mentioned... a "first world problem". Now we can get a pass first pg and have some fun. I'm not calling for a refund on my season tix if we get Iggy in Reke's place.
well... ok frankly I think Tyreke looks lost out there sometimes. He disappears sometimes. Other times he is a beast stud. His brand of basketball, bullying to the hole and either finishing or getting fouled.. gets dull sometimes. A good last posession guy if you're into that approach. I don't boo him or anything... I'm not glad to see him leave or anything... but I think Iggy is more a winner. I don't claim to be more insightful than people who really really appreciate Tyreke, but I can get over it if we lose him for Iggy who I consider a real stud on both sides of the ball, a stat stuffer and maybe somebody who will get on better with Cuz.
If PDA the cap nerd has a plan to get both I will say hurrah!! I don't hate Evans. But feel pressed to defend my Igoudala vote so there.
If PDA the cap nerd has a plan to get both I will say hurrah!! I don't hate Evans. But feel pressed to defend my Igoudala vote so there.
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One difference for me is that you know what you're getting with Iggy. Tyreke is still a proposition of hope. You hope he develops into something, because he's limited as is now. So, with Iggy you know what you have and that makes fitting out the rest of the roster easier. With Tyreke, you could fill out the roster thinking he'll become something, but then if Reke doesn't develop or goes a whole other way in development, then you're stuck with an imbalanced roster again.
I think that statement and this one...
...make it pretty clear what your bias is. You're insinuating that we have some kind of board-wide pro-Tyreke kool-ade and then counter that Tyreke is effective, but boring? I like watching the Kings win, that's what excites me. I've been advocating on behalf of an Igoudala signing for 4 years but I also recognize when a player has elite talent which hasn't been properly utilized yet. I wouldn't complain if we're able to add Igoudala to our team this summer, but Tyreke could be a lot better with a competent coach and he's already pretty damn good. And I think Evans/McLemore/Cousins is a better overall talent mix than would be Igoudala/McLemore/Cousins. Give Tyreke the ball and he's a 20/6/5 guy. He's already proven it. That was before he had a jumpshot and an All-NBA big man as a teammate. I'd also have to question where you get the idea that Igoudala is a proven winner. Great teammate, consummate professional, world-class wing defender -- sure. Proven winner? His credentials are questionable in that regard. I love him as a complimentary player. As the alpha dog he hasn't been able to lead anybody anywhere.
...make it pretty clear what your bias is. You're insinuating that we have some kind of board-wide pro-Tyreke kool-ade and then counter that Tyreke is effective, but boring? I like watching the Kings win, that's what excites me. I've been advocating on behalf of an Igoudala signing for 4 years but I also recognize when a player has elite talent which hasn't been properly utilized yet. I wouldn't complain if we're able to add Igoudala to our team this summer, but Tyreke could be a lot better with a competent coach and he's already pretty damn good. And I think Evans/McLemore/Cousins is a better overall talent mix than would be Igoudala/McLemore/Cousins. Give Tyreke the ball and he's a 20/6/5 guy. He's already proven it. That was before he had a jumpshot and an All-NBA big man as a teammate. I'd also have to question where you get the idea that Igoudala is a proven winner. Great teammate, consummate professional, world-class wing defender -- sure. Proven winner? His credentials are questionable in that regard. I love him as a complimentary player. As the alpha dog he hasn't been able to lead anybody anywhere.
gold medal. moot now. I'm not insinuating that there is a board wide Tyreke bias, I'm saying it plain. Nothing wrong with that. Now lets all pull together and retain Tyreke - I'm very into Tyreke as PG and have said so lots of times.
PS I edited the "s" word out of my post because I thought maybe it wasn't so nice or necessary. you quoted it before I edited... sorry bout that.
Love you Tyreke xoxo
PS I edited the "s" word out of my post because I thought maybe it wasn't so nice or necessary. you quoted it before I edited... sorry bout that.
Love you Tyreke xoxo
I would think that Igoudala averaging 14mins (including all of 3 minutes in the gold medal game) on an Olympic team which also included Lebron James, Kobe Bryant, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Chris Paul, et al is good evidence for my assertion that he's a great complimentary player, not a guy that has proven he can win games by himself. It's not totally meaningless like NBA championship rings often are -- he was selected for the team for good reason and was an important contributor. But he had other players there who picked up the scoring slack for him. That's my point exactly -- with Tyreke and Demarcus he's got that on the Kings as well. And if McLemore lives up to his potential then we've got 3 talented scorers to surround him with and his ultimate glue-guy game helps propel us to the promised land. As a #2 option his scoring inconsistency would be as much of a problem for us in the playoffs as it was for Philly and Denver.
But it sounds like it truly is moot after all. When I said the agressive offer was a smart move before, that was assuming we didn't do something monumentally stupid like pull the offer less than 24 hours later and kill any chance we have of signing him at any dollar amount. Just don't see the wisdom in making the offer at all if that was the plan. I thought we were supposed to be thinking 4 moves ahead here?
But it sounds like it truly is moot after all. When I said the agressive offer was a smart move before, that was assuming we didn't do something monumentally stupid like pull the offer less than 24 hours later and kill any chance we have of signing him at any dollar amount. Just don't see the wisdom in making the offer at all if that was the plan. I thought we were supposed to be thinking 4 moves ahead here?
Reke! He is younger, cheaper, bigger potential and will be reaching his prime during the deal. AI will be 30 in january and he will decline so by year 3 or 4 of the deal you have some real issues.
Moot point now as we habe withdrawn offer to AI. We might have just saved ourselves from ourselves...if that makes sense. Just match Reke, amnesty Salmons and sign AK47 with the feed up cap space for 2-3 years!
Moot point now as we habe withdrawn offer to AI. We might have just saved ourselves from ourselves...if that makes sense. Just match Reke, amnesty Salmons and sign AK47 with the feed up cap space for 2-3 years!
