[Grades] Grades v. Suns 03/08/2013

Kings player of the game?

  • Cousins 35min 22pts (9-13FG 0-0 3pt) 14reb 7ast

    Votes: 20 62.5%
  • Evans 35min 25pts (9-12FG 4-6 3pt) 2reb 5ast

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Thomas 33min 27pts (8-13FG 4-5 3pt) 5reb 6ast

    Votes: 5 15.6%
  • Thornton 24min 23pts (9-13FG 4-7 3pt) 3reb 1ast

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Travis "Big Buckets" Outlaw

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Boogie 35min 22pts (9-13FG 0-0 3pt) 14reb 7ast
Tyreke 35min 25pts (9-12FG 4-6 3pt) 2reb 5ast
Thomas 33min 27pts (8-13FG 4-5 3pt) 5reb 6ast
Thorntn 24min 23pts (9-13FG 4-7 3pt) 3reb 1ast
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4 players: 97pts 35-51FG

'Nuff said.

Full Grading Consortium for tonight:
Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial
bajaden


Boxscore

Stats: 23min 2pts (1-5, 0-4, 0-0) 3reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Salmons ( F ) -- Wow, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, John proves you wrong. How does a player go from being an impact player for three games, to almost being invisible. About the only good thing you can say about Johns night, is that he did play good defense at times, and he had 5 assists. The problem is, that John is susposed to be one of the guys that contributes offensively, and 2 points on 1 of 5 shooting, and 0 for 4 from the three is not my idea of a contribution. Let me see! I looked at my notes, and first was surprised to see that I had any, but the notes I did have all said the same thing. John misses another three! He did finally score on a beautiful bounce pass from Cuz, but John being John, he just had to follow it up by turning the ball over on the next possession. This is the type of game where John, and the fans need a short memory. Will the real John Salmons please step up. --Baja

Stats: 29min 12pts (4-8, 0-0, 4-6) 1reb 1ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Thompson ( C+ ) -- This was a close one. If JT had grabbed a few more rebounds, he would have had a B-. I thought JT played fairly well, espcially down the stretch, along with Patterson. Although he didn't put up glaring stats, he played well defenisvely and for the most part, just took what was there offensively. So on a night when others were hot, JT stayed out of the way, and just took what was there. He started the night by missing a little flipshot in the post. He then grabbed an offensive rebound and put it back in. After missing a 15 foot jumper, he scored on a little 5 foot flipshot. He finished out the 1st half by receiving a pass from IT on a break and dunking it. He started the 3rd quarter by driving baseline and finishing with a reverse layup. He did manage to get his shot blocked a bit later, but he finished the night strong by hitting a couple of 10 foot jumpers, and by getting fouled and making both freethrows. Nothing fancy! Just effecient and very JT like when he's playing well. And though he didn't rebound that well, some of that could be attributed to Cousins sucking up every rebound that came his way.--Baja

Stats: 35min 22pts (9-13, 0-0, 4-4) 14reb 7ast 2stl 0blk 4TO
Cousins ( A- ) -- this game was broken into three distinct parts for Boogie. First, it was child's play in the first half. He was able to dominate so easily against the ruins fo the Suns' frontline that he might as well have been backing down 8th graders. its hard to even say he was haivn agreat game, because he never had to do anything great, was rarely challenged, and totally comfortable. The worst threats of the half came when he fouled Scola on the first possession of the game, raising the spectre that his dominance would be interrupted by foul trouble, and by his own team, who's little chuckers have short attention spans and got tired of watching Boogie score everytime down the court (he hit his first 6 shots) and started making sure to get their own shots up instead. He was making good decisions as well, and his very presence led to another run for us iin the 2nd quarter after another wonderful smart reserve unit had us in full collapse. The 2nd stage of the game for Boogie came out of half, when he started the thrid drawing a lot of attention, and did not respnd to it well. His wild passes woes came to the fore again as he was swarmed and turned it over, he wasn't gettign the ball back enough from his guards for his liking, and he began to pick up frustration fouls, culminating in a 4th foul that sent him to the bench with the ruings of a dominant game still smoking aournd him. Smart surprised by bringiing him back in to start the 4th, and it quickly looked like the gambel was not going to pay off when Boogie pikced up his 5th within 2 minutes. But a funny thing happened then as the game entered the final phase for Boogie: the 5th foul seemed to settle him and focus him and he began to dominate the middle again. Was doing all the boardwork for us (he grabbed 14, nobody else more than 6), and had a number of strong ones in heavy traffic. And he began to pick apart the Suns for their swarming ways, working especially well with Reke and Thronton setting them up for threes, and being set up in return. Because of the 3rd quarter meltdown and general sensation of a big guy beating up on little boys, 22pts 14reb 7ast on 9-13 shooting is only going to be an A- here. Now think about that next time you start to complain about Boogie. --Brick

Stats: 35min 25pts (9-12, 4-6, 3-4) 2reb 5ast 1stl 2blk 6TO
Evans ( A- ) -- Now that's more like it! Tyreke went out there tonight and gave us Exhibit A on his improved jump shot. I'll want Exhibit B and Exhibit C before I declare him a great jump shooter, but 4 of 6 from deep and 9 of 12 overall (25 points on 14 shots) is amazing efficiency. The distribution of his scoring was a bit weird. All five shots he hit in the first half came in the lane, and all four shots he hit in the second half were from deep. He started the game out with an assist to Cuz driving the lane and finished with 5 assists - and it was a testament to our game tonight that that was tied for third-best on the team. However, Tyreke was not quite perfect on offense, with six TOs. In particular he pulled off a neat TO Hat Trick, where he took less than a minute to make two bad passes and get picked in the lane (all on consecutive possessions) to result in 8 points on the other end (3 layups, 2 and-1s). He also made three bad plays on defense tonight, each time getting burned on the baseline - twice by Jared Dudley for two layups and once by Marcus Morris (but he missed his shot). But he also had two very nice defensive plays tonight, both on blocks. In the first, he bothered Beasley in the lane and finally blocked his shot. But the better play came in the third, when he chased down Luis Scola in transition and made a spectacular block at the rim. Overall he made about as many nice plays as iffy plays on defense (though he seemed determined to slump way too far off of Wes Johnson in the first quarter), and he allowed 18 points on 18 shots, which is tough to complain about. It was really only the turnovers tonight that kept him from the full A. --Capt.

Stats: 33min 28pts (8-13, 4-5, 7-7) 5reb 6ast 5stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( A- ) -- IT was one of four Kings who had a great shooting night tonight. He led the team in scoring while going 8-13 from the floor and 4-5 from three. He did go 2-3 on pull-up threes in transition (the two hits on consecutive possessions), which is just good enough to justify taking that shot so early in the shot clock with nobody underneath to rebound but almost a worrying trend. IT also did a pretty good job distributing tonight, with 6 assists. Defensively, he was the same old IT we've come to know and love, particularly in the first quarter when Dragic made it a point to drive around him or lose him on a screen basically every time down the floor. Dragic carved us up then, though he spent most of his time dishing which allowed IT's results (10 point on 11 shots allowed) to look decent. He really wasn't that good. The most frustrating thing was probably watching the final play of the second quarter, when IT got down in a defensive stance and played basically a full shot clock of tough D on Dragic to deny him anything. Obviously he has the ability to put out that kind of effort, so why doesn't he do that every play? Or shoot, even twice a game? Throw me a defensive bone, here! Still it's next-to-impossible to ignore the scoring (27 points on 16 shots) so his grade is good enough. --Capt.
 
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Bench

Stats: 24min 23pts (9-13, 5-7, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Thornton ( A- ) -- in the game and immediately drained a three from Cousins, something Salmons could not do. But then gave it right back the other way with our classic corner three defensive blindspot. Felt for a while it was going to be a repeat of the Golden State game as you could feel him consciously trying to force the action again, attacking hard but not always smart. Was our only guy doing anything in the absymal 2nd quarter bench run, but wasn't doing much. When he returned in the late 3rd initially wasn't much room for him to contribute with both IT and Reke going for big numbers, but when Douglas came back first thing he did was set MT up for a 3pt hit from the wing, and then on the final play of the quarter hustled and won the scramble play in the corner and hit another big three to push us bakc out. After that kind of burst was no surprise that in the 4th was on hsi offensive game both attackign the completely undefended Suns' rim, and pairing with Reke in a 3pt barrage that ended the Suns' hopes late in the game. I'm not going to give him a better grade than a guy who puts up 22pts 14reb and 7ast -- pts over get overcredited in the NBA. But this was him playing hsi role to perfection. This was the way it was supposed to work from the beginning of the season. Why it suddenly has to such a dramatic degree in the last few weeks I will never know. --Brick

Stats: 26min 8pts (4-9, 0-1, 0-0) 6reb 2ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Patterson ( B- ) -- After the first half, it looked like it wasn't going to be a very good night for Patrick. He missed a couple of shots and contributed a personal foul, and that was about it. But the second half was the half of redemption. And we probably wouldn't have won the game without Patricks contribution. His 8 points on the stat sheet just don't tell the whole story, even if they came when they were needed most. It was his defense that stood out. He played tough hardnosed defense, both out on the perimeter and under the basket. Two or three times he stopped the ball in the post with crisp rotations. He recorded 1 blocked shot, but my notes have him for two, and I'm fairly positive of that because I replayed both sequences to varify them. He got into the fray in the second half with 7:05 left in the 3rd replacing Cousins. He immediately hit an 18 footer. Its too bad that they don't record tips along with rebounds, because in one sequence, he battled in a crowd and finally tipped the ball out to one of his teammates. After hitting a 12 footer, he drove the lane and kicked the ball out to Thornton who hit a three. A bit later, a pass from Tyreke was deflected to Patrick who immediatelly score on a little flipshot. He scored again with a hookshot on a nice pass from Cousins. Patterson played well overall, and hopefully this is the kind of effort we'll get from him everynight.
--Baja

Stats: 6min 2pts (1-3, 0-1, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Fredette ( INC ) -- in another one of those headscratching Smart only daily platoons, here was Jimmer again getting the first call as backup PG despite Douglas playing great last time out. But hey, there was nobody major for Douglas to harass this time, so maybe it was something more than brainless spinelessness by the coach and the plan was for him to light the Suns up. In any case Jimmer did nothing to justify the move, struggling to hit open shots or creat anythign for a backup crew that was impotent and fading once again. Finally hit a tough fallaway just before leaving, but it was an empty and lonely contribution and after half sure enough it was back to Douglas again. --Brick

Stats: 6min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( INC ) -- Chuck only played a blistering 6 minutes, and if you blinked, you never saw him. He did manage to take one shot and miss, and he grabbed one board. But it being what it is, I thought the fairest score was a INC. --Baja

Stats: 10min 0pts (0-2, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Outlaw ( A+++ ) -- the brilliance of Travis Outlaw's minutes cannot be easily expressed in such a short number of characters here. Suffice to to say it was so strong that his 0pts 1reb 0ast in 10min of action was enough for him to run virtually the entire 2nd quarter in place of Tyreke, who was sitting on a cool 5-6 from the floor at the time but could not hope to displace Big Buckets. Other than spectacularly giving the ball to the Suns on an inbounds and bricking threes, Travis made his one monster statistical contribution to the victory on the final play of the half when he viciously snapped down the closing rebound after the Suns missed their final shot. Beast.--Brick

Stats: 13min 0pts (0-3, 0-1, 0-0) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Douglas ( C- ) -- Douglas came in late in the third playing next to IT and immediately found Thornton for a three. For all that, he didn't have a whole lot more positive impact on the game despite playing some decent defense as is his wont. He missed all three shots he took, which consisted of two shots in the lane and an open three. Certainly not Douglas' finest game in purple. --Capt.
 
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Might take Thornton in this one. His numbers weren't the best of the 4, but I think his scoring had the biggest impact. Anytime the Suns were threatning to come back, it was Thornton hitting a huge 3
 
I was also happy to see Tyreke have a great shooting night. He has always been able to score but not always able to shoot.
 
COUSINS!!! MY MAN BIG CUZ! He went 22-14-7. Credit to Lil' Buckets, Reke and IT, but Cuz had the best all-around performance.
 
Cuz player of the game but how sweet was Tyreke's shooting tonight? And how freaking good was that block after which he landed akwardly?

Four player had big games yet we will don't blow out the Gortat-less Suns!

And why does Beasley always play like a superstar against us?!
 
Great game by pretty much everyone other than Salmons that got meaningfull mins

DMC: didn't take a single mid range jump shot (FANTASTIC), battle away inside punishing Scola and capped it of by finally using that money half hook (left handed) over the Iranian Bill Russell. Other than one bad pass had his best passing game for the year (better than Boston imo) made really quick instinctive choices and didn't catch and hold the ball at all. Hopefully someone shows him this game tape so he always plays like this instead of holding/taking those middies hes been awful at all year, all he has to do is make quick choices and the Kings are a better team.

IT: scored well and showed why imo on a good team will be a great back up PG

Reke: Hit his 3's, still did a little to much and1 stuff but had a overall good game and timed some of his leak outs to perfection (should probably look to leak out more).

PPat: while his stats won't show it was really solid on both ends making the right play over and over

JT: didn't get as many chances as the previous couple games but played very well again I thought

Thornton: two words "Little Buckets"

One thing that I was not impressed with was Douglas after having the most complete game for a Kings PG this season against GSW has half his mins given to Jimmer to further prove at this point Jimmer is a terrible PG, that choice was just bad Douglas should be getting 20 mins a game.
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.

Because he shouldn't be starting on a good team. I'd like to see him be a 20-25 min change of pace shoot first PG like JJ Barea. Wish we had someone like Andre Miller or maybe Chauncey Billups from a few years ago. We need veteran experience on this team in the worst way.
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.

Because he's a "midget" too "selfish" and takes shots away from reke and cuz.

That seems to be the consensus from most.

If i was the coach he'd start on the bench for me, but some of the things i read about IT on here are just nonsense.
 
Cuz player of the game but how sweet was Tyreke's shooting tonight? And how freaking good was that block after which he landed akwardly?

Four player had big games yet we will don't blow out the Gortat-less Suns!

And why does Beasley always play like a superstar against us?!

Beasley seems to play like a superstar when he feels like it.
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.

You had me right up until you used the word hate! I don't hate IT! I just don't think he's the starting PG on a championship team. But he's certainly capable of being the starting PG on a bad team. Look, he probably gives you more bang for the buck than just about everyone else on the team. But to the best of my ability, I can't remember any team that won a championship, or even had a sniff of a championship with a 5'7" PG. Even Tiny Archibald was just under 6 foot. And I mean no disrespect to IT. Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong..
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.

IT is my 4th favorite player on the entire team. I have no problem with the guy except for the role that he and the FO believes he carries. As others have stated, I'd love to see him off the bench, providing an offensive/energy spark.
 
IT is my 4th favorite player on the entire team. I have no problem with the guy except for the role that he and the FO believes he carries. As others have stated, I'd love to see him off the bench, providing an offensive/energy spark.

The obvious problem this would solve is the absolute impotence of our bench unit although Smart seems to be sliding away subtly from playing them as a unit. If IT and MT were to come off the bench, there wouldn't be as much of a drop off in offense and perhaps the offense would be better. The defense would obviously be far worse but there is nothing unusual about a bench being weaker than the starters. Such is life.

To switch topics a little, I have until recently been 100% of the opinion that MT should be traded as he has value and is underutilized. We have other needs and having two very good SGs might be overkill. Now that Smart has brilliantly (cough, cough!) figured out that MT could sub for Salmons and not Tyreke, this problem seems to be lessening. Damn, I wish being a coach wasn't a lesson in on-the-job training. Now, I see the MT we all began to love last year and he is getting his minutes. Perhaps all he needed was a new nickname to get his game going. Little Buckets seems to suit him better than the Bayou Bomber. :)
 
The obvious problem this would solve is the absolute impotence of our bench unit although Smart seems to be sliding away subtly from playing them as a unit. If IT and MT were to come off the bench, there wouldn't be as much of a drop off in offense and perhaps the offense would be better. The defense would obviously be far worse but there is nothing unusual about a bench being weaker than the starters. Such is life.

To switch topics a little, I have until recently been 100% of the opinion that MT should be traded as he has value and is underutilized. We have other needs and having two very good SGs might be overkill. Now that Smart has brilliantly (cough, cough!) figured out that MT could sub for Salmons and not Tyreke, this problem seems to be lessening. Damn, I wish being a coach wasn't a lesson in on-the-job training. Now, I see the MT we all began to love last year and he is getting his minutes. Perhaps all he needed was a new nickname to get his game going. Little Buckets seems to suit him better than the Bayou Bomber. :)

Totally agree about Thornton (Hey! It is possible!). I think what's helped his game he's not just living at the 3pt line anymore, but starting to do the old things he used to do offensively (drive, cut to the rim, etc). I distinctly remember twice last night where Thornton scored off back-door cuts to the rim. Also, he's playing better defense and helping out on the boards. This is definetly the Thornton I think we all envisioned in a bench role
 
I'm starting to think that IT is a legit PG in this league. He's starting to distribute more and more, he's a great shooter, he's a smart player, he's a leader, he's a great character guy, etc. what am I missing? I know this forum hates IT but I just don't know why.

6 or 7 years ago, when they were good and bad, my local team (the Knicks) tried starting a feisty athletic 5'9" PG from Washington.

Here are the career per 36 numbers for the two guys:

Isaiah: 17.2pts (.446 .365 .862) 3.2reb 5.4ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 2.3TO
Nate: 17.6pts (.424 .357 .801) 3.9reb 4.6ast 1.4stl 0.1blk 2.3TO

Nate is still in the NBA. Clearly he's an NBA guy. But he's bounced around as an aquired taste. Is Nate Robinson a starting PG in the NBA? Not on a winning team he's not. I think IT is slightly more conventional than Nate. Maybe with the right coach, maybe, you tame the game, make him a real PG and MAYBE. But its a big maybe.
 
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Tell me again - why is IT such a "crud" because we played and won such a nice game? Many on here are unbelievable with their outrage at IT scoring as much as 20 points in a victory.

On another matter, Reke and Cuz played some pretty poor basketball for two guys that got A-'s. They did well but A-'s? Don't think so.
 
Tell me again - why is IT such a "crud" because we played and won such a nice game? Many on here are unbelievable with their outrage at IT scoring as much as 20 points in a victory.

On another matter, Reke and Cuz played some pretty poor basketball for two guys that got A-'s. They did well but A-'s? Don't think so.

At the point a guy can put up 22pts 14reb 7ast on 9-13 shooting in a victory and NOT get an A-, well, you just elected him to the HOF. Likely first ballot.
 
6 or 7 years ago, when they were good and bad, my local team (the Knicks) tried starting a feisty athletic 5'9" PG from Washington.

Here are the career per 36 numbers for the two guys:

Isaiah: 17.2pts (.446 .365 .862) 3.2reb 5.4ast 1.2stl 0.1blk 2.3TO
Nate: 17.6pts (.424 .357 .801) 3.9reb 4.6ast 1.4stl 0.1blk 2.3TO

Nate is still in the NBA. Clearly he's an NBA guy. But he's bounced around as an aquired taste. Is Nate Robinson a starting PG in the NBA? Not on a winning team he's not. I think IT is slightly more conventional than Nate. Maybe with the right coach, maybe, you tame the game, make him a real PG and MAYBE. But its a big maybe.

I don't see why IT shouldn't be afforded the proper amount of time to develop at PG. He's only in his 2nd year with a JV level coach at the helm, with only a portion of both years as him being the full-time starter. Not every PG can be Chris Paul and can come into the NBA running a team like a future HoF.

The big difference between IT and Nate is that Nate is a finished product. We know exactly what he brings to a team. IT, is not a finished product and still has plenty of time to improve and develop his game further
 
Tell me again - why is IT such a "crud" because we played and won such a nice game? Many on here are unbelievable with their outrage at IT scoring as much as 20 points in a victory.

On another matter, Reke and Cuz played some pretty poor basketball for two guys that got A-'s. They did well but A-'s? Don't think so.

If you think people are upset that IT scored a lot of points, you are way off base. I am bothered by his need to score. The game starts with Reke and Cuz scoring the first 16 points. Cuz made his first 6 shots. Why does IT think it necessary to come charging down the court for a pull up three with no rebounders? Why does he do it twice in a row? Does he feel a need to score as opposed to a need for the team to win? I am worried that he is selfish.

Also to address Capt's concern that IT didn't play defense, I could give the simple answer that IT is saving his energy to score. It's about priorities. What are IT's priorities? Did he not notice that Cuz was unstoppable? Isn't it his job to see to it that we score the most efficiently AND play defense? Is a pull up three when you have two guys starting out with a blaze of offense a great move?

I have been on the forum 13 years and I will bet that no player has bothered me as much as IT. I would have to think about that. I am sure IT is very happy that he led the team to victory with his team leading scoring. This isn't about one damn game. I have already said he had a great game. I can't say anything else about a guy who leads the team in scoring with 27 points, can I? I am getting repititious but I am not convinced that IT has the team's best interests as his #1 priority and I think the team's performance is the primary job of a point guard.
 
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If you think people are upset that IT scored a lot of points, you are way off base. I am bothered by his need to score. The game starts with Reke and Cuz scoring the first 16 points. Cuz made his first 6 shots. Why does IT think it necessary to come charging down the court for a pull up three with no rebounders? Why does he do it twice in a row? Does he feel a need to score as opposed to a need for the team to win? I am worried that he is selfish.

Also to address Capt's concern that IT didn't play defense, I could give the simple answer that IT is saving his energy to score. It's about priorities. What are IT's priorities? Did he not notice that Cuz was unstoppable? Isn't it his job to see to it that we score the most efficiently AND play defense? Is a pull up three when you have two guys starting out with a blaze of offense a great move?

I have been on the forum 13 years and I will bet that no player has bothered me as much as IT. I would have to think about that. I am sure IT is very happy that he led the team to victory with his team leading scoring. This isn't about one damn game. I have already said he had a great game. I can't say anything else about a guy who leads the team in scoring with 27 points, can I? I am getting repititious but I am not convinced that IT has the team's best interests as his #1 priority and I think the team's performance is the primary job of a point guard.

Not even Luther Head?
 
You had me right up until you used the word hate! I don't hate IT! I just don't think he's the starting PG on a championship team. But he's certainly capable of being the starting PG on a bad team. Look, he probably gives you more bang for the buck than just about everyone else on the team. But to the best of my ability, I can't remember any team that won a championship, or even had a sniff of a championship with a 5'7" PG. Even Tiny Archibald was just under 6 foot. And I mean no disrespect to IT. Who knows, maybe he'll prove me wrong..

He's 5'9"!!!! Stop short changing him!
 
On another matter, Reke and Cuz played some pretty poor basketball for two guys that got A-'s. They did well but A-'s? Don't think so.

On Tyreke - really? He scored 25 points on 14 shots, he went 4-6 from three and blocked two shots, one impressively. Outside of that one stretch of turnovers and getting beat a few times on the baseline, I don't see how his game could be considered "pretty poor basketball".

I guess given that I've been knocked for grading too harshly ("you're like that professor who never gives out anything better than a B-") and now for grading too easy, I must be right on target!
 
At the point a guy can put up 22pts 14reb 7ast on 9-13 shooting in a victory and NOT get an A-, well, you just elected him to the HOF. Likely first ballot.

OK, so they get an A- but can they have an asterisk after the grade with my note on it? Hey, you guys do agreat job with the grading and analysis. No change, I just wanted to get my two cents in. Best game the two of them have had together for some time.
 
i dont dislike IT, i just dont think he should be a starting PG. he would be a great option off the bench for 20+ mins
 
I'll take back most of my criticism of IT. He is playing for a contract. Heck, he is so poor he cannot even afford diamond ear rings. His ear rings don't even look like decent saphires. :) His biggest challenge this year is to get an NBA contract worth in the millions. Although I still think my criticism is based fairly on what I see, it doesn't take into consideration that he is playing for his basketball life and when you are on a team going nowhere, there is no reason not to play for your own needs. You better score because guys who score get the contracts. He is on the outside looking in and needs to change that.
 
Tell me again - why is IT such a "crud" because we played and won such a nice game? Many on here are unbelievable with their outrage at IT scoring as much as 20 points in a victory.

On another matter, Reke and Cuz played some pretty poor basketball for two guys that got A-'s. They did well but A-'s? Don't think so.

MANY? OUTRAGE? I read every post, and only one person actually called IT a name, the rest of us were simply stating that we either did, or did not think he should be a starting PG. No one is denying that he had a very good game. As to Tyreke and Cousins. I have no idea what your idea of an A is? If 22 points, 14 rebounds and 7 assists doesn't get you at least a A-, then I don't know what does. Except for a two minute period in the second half, where Tryeke looked like forgot where he was, he had an excellent game.
 
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