Future of Willie Cauley-Stein?

[sergmatt]

What is everyone's thoughts on Willie? If the Kings draft Bagley tonight, what do the Kings do with Willie? And when?

I like elements of Willie's game and still like his potential (although it's starting to fade) but hate his lack of consistency and especially his aversion to just focusing on the elements of his game where he could truly be elite.

To me if the Kings draft Bagley tonight then Willie needs to be traded tonight as well. Generally you can get pretty good value on draft night and there is no sense having Giles, Skal, Bagley, Willie plus Z-Bo and Kosta all on the same roster.

I'm thinking he could return a draft pick somewhere in the late teens. Atlanta would be a good trader partner with the 19th Pick.

If Bagley is drafted tonight and WCS or Skal is still on the roster tomorrow that will be another mistake on the part of Vlade. It's time for the Kings to start learning from guys like Danny Ainge. That means get in the business of acquiring assets. That means trading players before they lose value or leave on their own. That means trading players before everyone and their uncle knows they are leaving. That means setting yourself up with a stockpile instead of always being low on stock.

 

[SLAB]

Somehow figure out how to trade him + whatever for a late lottery pick and pick the freefalling MPJ.

 

[ESP47]

We need another couple years of running the offense extensively through him in the high post before we can decide.

 

[upinsmoke]

I'll tell you in a few mins.

 

[Sac.1989]

He's tradeable, always was. Wasted investment but it is what it is

 

[sergmatt]

He's tradeable, always was. Wasted investment but it is what it is

Well of course everyone is tradeable but when do you do it? I think he needs to be traded tonight. Playing him in a platoon and with a lessened role/minutes is certainly not going to help his value.

This is where I really question Vlade's skills as a GM. Is he really going to hold onto Willie and then just quietly let him go for nothing?

 

[DesertFox]

Vlade is going to get fleeced in a trade, might as well let him go for nothing.

 

[VF21]

Interesting timing. You're probably the only person on this board thinking about WCS right now.

 

[SLAB]

Vlade is going to get fleeced in a trade, might as well let him go for nothing.

"Chandler Parsons for a WCS and our second rounder? HELLA YEZ!!!!"

 

[sergmatt]

Interesting timing. You're probably the only person on this board thinking about WCS right now.

I doubt that's true and regardless of what people are thinking on this board, Vlade better well be thinking about WCS right now and what he can get for him tonight? If he's not traded tonight then Vlade is already behind schedule on moving him. Again, good GM's like Danny Ainge are perceived to be "early" on stuff like this and they always end up being right on time.

 

[LPKingsFan]

If WCS would block shots like he's capable of and hit jumpers like he did in that video that circulated before his draft, he'd actually be the perfect fit next to Bagley.

 

[VF21]

I doubt that's true and regardless of what people are thinking on this board, Vlade better well be thinking about WCS right now and what he can get for him tonight? If he's not traded tonight then Vlade is already behind schedule on moving him. Again, good GM's like Danny Ainge are perceived to be "early" on stuff like this and they always end up being right on time.

Dude, in about 20 minutes we'll know who our draft pick is. I think that's what the majority of Kings fans are thinking about. That's why I mentioned the timing, as in right now on this date at this particular moment.

 

[ockingsfan]

"Chandler Parsons for a WCS and our second rounder? HELLA YEZ!!!!"

How about WCS for Chandler Parsons (salary dump) and Memphis's #4 pick and draft either Doncic (if he falls) or MPJ.

 

[DesertFox]

How about WCS for Chandler Parsons (salary dump) and Memphis's #4 pick and draft either Doncic (if he falls) or MPJ.

That would be amazing, no chance in hell that happens. Other GMs go to MIT conferences, ours judges guys by handshakes.

 

[Sactown ExPat]

Surplus to requirements.

 

[Sac.Kings]

I'm not a huge fan of WCS. He's got all the tools but has limited drive to be the best he can be. He's young enough and solid enough right now to trade him. However, he isn't bad enough to just give away either so it has to be a trade that makes sense.

I'm all for trading him in the right scenario.

 

[sactowndog]

I'm not a huge fan of WCS. He's got all the tools but has limited drive to be the best he can be. He's young enough and solid enough right now to trade him. However, he isn't bad enough to just give away either so it has to be a trade that makes sense.

I'm all for trading him in the right scenario.

Wait a year and see who of WCS and Skal really wants to play.

 

[Kingsfan23]

Needed to be gone two years back when he had value

 

[Sac.Kings]

Wait a year and see who of WCS and Skal really wants to play.

I want to get rid of them both. Skal is a cute player with only 1 skill and that's shooting. Not a rebounder, defender, or passer. He gets pushed around like a rag doll.

WCS has a poor desire and drive to really succeed and seems to have a vastly over inflated opinion of himself. Just spells bad news.

 

[Gguod]

We have drafted 5 centers first round in the last three drafts. Who knows what Vlade thinks

 

[mac]

Wait a year and see who of WCS and Skal really wants to play.

WCS is the type of player I fully expect to play well in a contract year and then revert to being inconsistent

 

[roasthawg]

I prefer to keep both WCS and skal and let them compete for minutes. Zbo and kousta have to go.

 

[Hansel]

Is he good at rapping?

 

[Bosnian Diehard]

Is he good at rapping?

From what I heard, he was pretty good.

 

[Joer]

Bye bye W S

 

[Kingz19]

I’m kinda curious what he can deliver in a contract year. Willie seems like a contract year type of player.

But somebody up front will be on the move before the season starts. That’s for sure. Not sure if it will be Willie though

 

[ockingsfan]

I think WCS becomes trade bait.

I hear Washington wants to shed salary and needs a center to replace Gortat. They also have a young and cheaper small forward waiting in the wings in Oubre (sp?). They are over paying Otto Porter as a 3rd option.

If I'm Vlade, I'm calling Washington to make a swap of WCS for Otto Porter ( salary dump) now.

 

[Jkbiker]

I still think bagley,giles and wcs could be a great 3 man rotation, Giles -Defense,passing,stooting,rebounding
Bagley - Shooting Rebounding WCS - Shooting,blocking, ALL THREE can Run!

Maybe they can compliment each other, cover each other's weakness and play that uptempo ball we need

I think these three can be the future

If not play them big minutes and find a trade for WCS

 

[allrightythen]

I still think bagley,giles and wcs could be a great 3 man rotation, Giles -Defense,passing,stooting,rebounding
Bagley - Shooting Rebounding WCS - Shooting,blocking, ALL THREE can Run!

Maybe they can compliment each other, cover each other's weakness and play that uptempo ball we need

I think these three can be the future

If not play them big minutes and find a trade for WCS

I agree with all three being mobile and running well, but WCS has not been a great shot blocker here. If he was consistent in that area fans would be clamoring to keep him.

 

[Gguod]

I still think bagley,giles and wcs could be a great 3 man rotation, Giles -Defense,passing,stooting,rebounding
Bagley - Shooting Rebounding WCS - Shooting,blocking, ALL THREE can Run!

Maybe they can compliment each other, cover each other's weakness and play that uptempo ball we need

I think these three can be the future

If not play them big minutes and find a trade for WCS

So basically we would be playing two non shooting bigs all the time? Sounds like inefficent offense to me