Carmelo Anthony
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Problem is Melo I believe has a no-trade clause , so if he doesn't want to play in Sacto he can say no to the trade
If he thinks starting in sacto and getting minutes help him get a better contract where he wants next year, maybe
but he can do that in OKC with a play-off team
If OKC buys him out/ or stretches him, he can then sign cheap for another contender - Houston?
Either way I don't think he comes here, The no-trade clause kills this proposed trade
If he approved and we got the picks - then yes with our need for a SF I would do it
What other cap space for bad contract gets us the picks and a starting SF
If he thinks starting in sacto and getting minutes help him get a better contract where he wants next year, maybe
but he can do that in OKC with a play-off team
If OKC buys him out/ or stretches him, he can then sign cheap for another contender - Houston?
Either way I don't think he comes here, The no-trade clause kills this proposed trade
If he approved and we got the picks - then yes with our need for a SF I would do it
What other cap space for bad contract gets us the picks and a starting SF
Ok I just checked the Thunder future draft picks. The earliest they can trade a first is 2021.
https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Thunder.htm
https://www.prosportstransactions.com/basketball/DraftTrades/Future/Thunder.htm
2021 first will be a good year to take a first. But since it is in the future a bit I'd ask for at least 2 plus a pick swap option in between. They are going to be in luxury cap hell and we are doing them one hell of a solid. Word is they will be stretching Carmelo this would get them out of a lot of trouble.
Depends on what they give. Their own picks will certainly not be too rosy, but I don't know if they have any other picks stocked away. Also, even with Melo, they are probably the 5th best team in the west (Ws and Rockets are certainly above them. Lakers might be, and Spurs tend to find ways. If they are able to retain Kawhi, or get something decent in return for him, they might end up being better than OKC. We also have to see how Utah develops this year). So, the pick might be in the low 20s, which is not too bad.
Moreover, if they do send us 2 of their own picks, they will be in 2019, and 2021. Who knows how they will be 3 years from now? Teams like Suns and hopefully us, will be looking to leapfrog them.
Draft picks always have value, either as players, or as trade chips. If we trade Shump for Melo, as has been proposed (theoretical, given the no-trade clause, etc.), we don't lose anything in terms of assets (the owners need to shell out an added 17M of course. Thunder may cover part of it from their 50M savings), retain our space for next year, and get two first round picks.
Melo has some issues, and needs the ball. That said, he's an established star, a strong scoring option that the team needs, and someone who gives the team some credibility in an year we have no incentive to lose. Plus, he plays SF. Not a bad deal overall.
Moreover, if they do send us 2 of their own picks, they will be in 2019, and 2021. Who knows how they will be 3 years from now? Teams like Suns and hopefully us, will be looking to leapfrog them.
Draft picks always have value, either as players, or as trade chips. If we trade Shump for Melo, as has been proposed (theoretical, given the no-trade clause, etc.), we don't lose anything in terms of assets (the owners need to shell out an added 17M of course. Thunder may cover part of it from their 50M savings), retain our space for next year, and get two first round picks.
Melo has some issues, and needs the ball. That said, he's an established star, a strong scoring option that the team needs, and someone who gives the team some credibility in an year we have no incentive to lose. Plus, he plays SF. Not a bad deal overall.
Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
ESPN Sources with @Royce Young: Oklahoma City, Carmelo Anthony will part ways this summer, likely saving team over $100M. Thunder working with 'Melo's reps on exits that include trade, stretch provision. Story: es.pn/2KPKxC8
Consensus seems to be fakers or rockets
ESPN Sources with @Royce Young: Oklahoma City, Carmelo Anthony will part ways this summer, likely saving team over $100M. Thunder working with 'Melo's reps on exits that include trade, stretch provision. Story: es.pn/2KPKxC8
Consensus seems to be fakers or rockets
Good idea. I also don't get the "well they aren't lottery picks so..." mentality. Do these people not watch the NBA? Do they not see we took an All Star MVP candidate with the last pick a few years ago in IT? Did they not see a serviceable PG in Mason taken 34th? Did they not watch a guy like Wagner put up 23 points from all over the court, and who has a chance to compete for the starting spot with the Lakers? People act like if it isn't in the top 15, it is worthelss, and that is simply idiotic thinking. Even if the team doesn't intend to use those selections, they help facilitate other deals! They are chips on your side of the table that can keep you in the game, and with the team's cap space, they should use their advantage to get more chips in their pot.
Picks. The team has no first rounder this season due to previous deals, and the team will be in the lottery again, so getting a pick ensures some assets.
I really don't see the argument here for using cap space on a player. This team isn't winning games until the young guys mature, so we are talking another two years at least in the lottery. That's two years of a three or four year contract that are literally wasted. Why not use the cap space to acquire draft assets during the losing period so that when the team is ready to compete, we will have both the cap space and draft assets to make deals?
I really don't see the argument here for using cap space on a player. This team isn't winning games until the young guys mature, so we are talking another two years at least in the lottery. That's two years of a three or four year contract that are literally wasted. Why not use the cap space to acquire draft assets during the losing period so that when the team is ready to compete, we will have both the cap space and draft assets to make deals?
