Byron Scott to SacTown? Anyone an ESPN insider?

Would you be happy with Byron Scott?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 93.1%
  • No

    Votes: 6 6.9%

  • Total voters
    87
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/feat...ttp://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors



Theres been some rumors swirling that Byron Scott may be out of a Job. Im not really sure were I stand on him as a coach yet, but damn, hes better than most of the options out there ehh? I was wondering if anyone here could give a rundown on todays ESPN insider article/rumor of Scott actually coming to the Kings. Im not an Insider ... so any info u guys can pull from that would be apperciated...



Im throwing a poll up here to for kicks and giggles.
 
I voted no because, while I think his overall qualifications are as good as we could hope for, I have some unanswered questions about whether he could be counted on to do a fair and thorough job of developing the younger talents on the team.

If I could have those doubts removed, I'd jump into the "hell yes" camp, for at least a couple of years, and possibly longer. But I do think that development need be our new coach's #1 priority, so... convince me.
 
I voted yes in fairly obvious fashion. We can nit all we want, but Scott is right at the top of the list of most accomplished coaches available. I'm sure he'll have warts -- they all do. But when you are looking at a coach who could have real authority and real staying power, and a guy who can take you all the way into contention roster willing, well, just do it.
 
I voted no because, while I think his overall qualifications are as good as we could hope for, I have some unanswered questions about whether he could be counted on to do a fair and thorough job of developing the younger talents on the team.

If I could have those doubts removed, I'd jump into the "hell yes" camp, for at least a couple of years, and possibly longer. But I do think that development need be our new coach's #1 priority, so... convince me.

he wouldn't have a choice as it stands we don't have any veterans on the team unless you count K-mart and Garcia.
 
here's what it says

im not totally sure about the legality of posting this, so im sure a moderator will let me know if im doing something im not supposed to.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors

Byron Scott is a former Kings assistant, and his best playing days took place in California.
In the playoffs this season, he was periodically criticized for some of his coaching decisions in the Hornets' first-round loss to the Nuggets, which included a ridiculous 58-point loss.
So, could Scott want a change of scenery to northern California?
The Sacramento Bee has been all over this possibility including discussing it with Sac-Town fans.
This is sheer rumor at this point, certainly, but an interesting big-time coaching change (Scott is a former Coach of the Year) that could happen.

the bee part is linked to this

http://www.sacbee.com/kings/story/1825415.html

overall i wouldnt be too disappointed if we ended up with scott as long as (like fnordius pointed out) he can develop the youth
 
HELL YES! if there is anyway, we have to do this. either that or were talking about a bunch of unproven guys as our coach. no one is more accomplished in the nba than him (of the coaches were talking about) and i really liked the way he coached the young hornets teams of a few years ago. hes teaches tough and is a guy that our team would love to play for
 
Hm, I would've thought an ESPN "rumour" would be based on a more credible source than just an article in the Bee. That report tells us nothing that we didn't already know.

But yeah, I also hope it can become reality. Scott would be a good choice if we can get him.
 
From this morning...

Byron Scott's agent, Brian McInerney, said Monday afternoon that he has not heard from the Hornets about whether they want Scott to return for the last year of his contract next season or if they'll grant him permission to pursue another job.

"There is certainly no animosity, because Byron has certainly been around long enough to know this is a business, " said McInerney, who has been in New Orleans the past two weeks. "He's OK. I'm sure that they will get to him, and they'd probably think, 'Heck, the guy is guaranteed $5.5 million one way or the other, and so we shouldn't cry for him.' Byron is more appreciative that the players are supportive.

"But on the other hand, if there are options and if an owner doesn't really want the coach, then ownership has the right to say if they want to go in a different direction."

For the past week, Scott has surfaced as a possible candidate for the Sacramento Kings' job, which became vacant when interim coach Kenny Natt was fired April 23 after the Kings finished 17-65.

There's also a possibility Scott could become a candidate to replace Los Angeles Lakers Coach Phil Jackson if he retires this season or next, when his contract runs out. Scott won three NBA title as a guard on the "Showtime" Lakers in the 1980s. -- The Times-Picayune
 
This really is no contest. If Byron Scott is available in any way shape or form, then you go out and get him. Don't worry about looking at other candidates. He is a proven coach, who coaches defence and offence. Of course he will have his flaws and does every coach but I think he would be a perfect fit for us at this point in time.

If I was Kings hierarchy, I would be asking NO ownership permission to speak to Scott right now. Offer him a 3 year deal, get some consistency and stability with our head coach and move forward developing the team.
 
Abso-f'in-lutely!

Considering who is available and what he's accomplished thus far, he's BCA (Best Coach Available). Also, bring on the Euro dude on the bench to get him acclimated to the NBA.
Profit.
 
"There is certainly no animosity, because Byron has certainly been around long enough to know this is a business, " said McInerney, who has been in New Orleans the past two weeks. "He's OK. I'm sure that they will get to him, and they'd probably think, 'Heck, the guy is guaranteed $5.5 million one way or the other, and so we shouldn't cry for him.' Byron is more appreciative that the players are supportive.

"But on the other hand, if there are options and if an owner doesn't really want the coach, then ownership has the right to say if they want to go in a different direction."

Those are some read-between-the-lines quotes if I've ever seen any. Sounds like Byron wants out to me.
 
Those are some read-between-the-lines quotes if I've ever seen any. Sounds like Byron wants out to me.

I wouldn't blame him that team is on a serious decline. They have so much money invested in players that don't appear to be worth it anymore (Chandler, MoPete), or were never worth it in the first place (Peja, Posey). They substantially lack in talent, especially depth-wise -which is a bit self-inflicted as quite a bit of solid talent has either been let go off or was left on the bench- and have no designs on getting any better (no high draft picks, not enough money for free agents). They are still in a somewhat better position than the Kings, because they have a spectacular franchise player and have him locked up too, but I still wouldn't want to be in a Hornets fan's shoes.
 
I really hope Petrie and the Maloofs go after him with all they have. Byron has shown twice that he has the ability to rebuild a franchise. IMO, he is the best option out there, followed by Jeff V Gundy. I know he has a reputation for being extremely demanding on his players, and that can wear them down a little. But this team needs an extremely demanding coach with a reputation that the players respect.

In all honesty, no one on this team has accomplished enough in the nba to not respect and play hard for a coach of Byron's status. I actually think Byron's approach would be welcomed in the locker room. These guys want to win, and they want to improve. Byron will only help, not only with his leadership, but also his knowledge and ability to teach the game.
 
I voted no because, while I think his overall qualifications are as good as we could hope for, I have some unanswered questions about whether he could be counted on to do a fair and thorough job of developing the younger talents on the team.

If I could have those doubts removed, I'd jump into the "hell yes" camp, for at least a couple of years, and possibly longer. But I do think that development need be our new coach's #1 priority, so... convince me.

This is my main concern as well. Especially after reading that he favors vets over developing younger players. This is especially concerning to me due to the current state of our team. Theus was stubborn and didnt develop the kids. Everyone wanted his head for it.
 
This is my main concern as well. Especially after reading that he favors vets over developing younger players. This is especially concerning to me due to the current state of our team. Theus was stubborn and didnt develop the kids. Everyone wanted his head for it.

I wouldn't worry about this. A major goal of the deadline trades was to remove the possibility that a coach could really do this. Miller vs Hawes is a debate for instance, but no one with real talent is getting squashed by ANY coach for KT or Beno. Those guys aren't going to generate more wins which is why coaches play vets over kids. I suppose Nocioni could squash a draft pick, but I doubt we get a SF in this draft.
 
YEP! He would definitely be a better choice than that Eddie Jordan and probably more preferable than Thibodau since he has never been a head coach before I think...
 
The only problem I have with Scott is all the murmurs about him not being able to develop talent. But I think we’re in a good position with our young guys, the only piece that seems to be old is Noc and he could take time from Donte. Unless Byron is going to play Kenny.

Either way, I’d be happy to have him coach our team. He seems like the best option (second place would be Shaw – which I think Geoff already eliminated).

Here’s to hoping that N.O drops him and he comes to us.
 
Wait a second, a winning coach wanting who may be out of a job willing to coach for us? And has been with this organization before? Really? Didn't know such existed. Hell yes!
 
Bringing Byron Scott back to Sacramento would be the most exciting pick-up by the Kings in a long time, probably since Ron Ron came to town (remember when that was exciting? :))

I'm not too concerned about Scott being unable to develop young players. David West had a break-out season during Scott's second year with the Hornets. Plus, Scott seemed to do rather well with the relatively young core of West-Chandler-Paul. Besides, Scott's teams have historically done drastically better in his second season as a whole. (NJ 26 wins to 52 wins, NO 18 wins to 38 wins)

What concerns me is that even while winning, his players seemingly have a tendency to mutiny on him, which is why he might be available to us in the first place.
 
I've got the same basic concern about Byron Scott that everyone does -- he's got a reputation for burying players who get in his dog house never to be heard from again. Some of that is understandable when you watch JR Smith though. George Karl looks like he doesn't know whether to hug him or strangle him half the time. Over his career mid to late round rookie picks have had a tough time finding minutes with him. The top guys though - Chris Paul and Kenyon Martin and Richard Jefferson - have always got a chance to play right away. He seems to really value basketball IQ over athleticism. Whoever we pick first in this draft will likely have a big role right away. (Which, on a side note, makes me think Rubio would be the ideal choice if we do end up hiring Byron Scott-- he's a playmaker with a high basketball IQ which should endear him right away.)

I think if you look at what he's done as a head coach, he inherited a terrible team in New Jersey and a terrible team in New Orleans and both of those teams got turned around quickly. He took New Jersey to the Finals twice with just Jason Kidd and a bunch of role players. Granted that was one of the all-time low periods for the Eastern Conference, but I still don't think New Jersey had the most talented team in the conference either of those years. Then he inherited New Orleans fresh off a Baron Davis fire-sale and got them back into the playoffs faster than anyone expected. Our team this year is in a similar situation to both his previous jobs -- terrible season, veteran fire-sale, top pick in the draft. He seems like a good bet turn it around. He's done it twice before.

Adding to that, I think it's hard to say he doesn't develop young players when Kenyon Martin, Chris Paul, and David West all became first time All-Stars under him. Richard Jefferson wasn't an All-Star but he was close. Tyson Chandler was close too until his injury problems this year. That's a lot of success with young players. Sure most of those guys were picked very high in the draft, but a lot of other high-profile prospects have failed in different situations. That's got to count for something.

And the biggest thing for me is what his players think of him. If the players want the coach to stay, then they know he's helping them. People talk a lot about how tough Popovich and Sloan are, but the key with those guys is that the players respect them and look up to them because they know that the right coach can make them a better player. I'm not clear on the circumstances of Byron Scott's firing in New Jersey. I just remember hearing that Jason Kidd wanted him out (power struggle?). It's been reported that the players in New Orleans want him back. This article about Kenyon Martin's opinion is encouraging.

I think out of all the names that have come up, Byron Scott is by far the best option for this team right now. He's not going to be cheap, but you know with him you're getting an NBA coach.
 
This is my main concern as well. Especially after reading that he favors vets over developing younger players. This is especially concerning to me due to the current state of our team. Theus was stubborn and didnt develop the kids. Everyone wanted his head for it.

What vets? Beno? Martin? Nocioni? Garcia? I mean really these guys are all still a year or two outside their primes, other than Nocioni. He HAS to play the youth because that's what our team is made up of.
 
What vets? Beno? Martin? Nocioni? Garcia? I mean really these guys are all still a year or two outside their primes, other than Nocioni. He HAS to play the youth because that's what our team is made up of.

Exactly. The Maloofs aren't going to let him bury our draft pick prospects on the bench in favor of some superstar (who we don't have) playing 45 minutes a night... its out of the question. If he has a problem with that (which he won't) he won't come here in the first place.
 
What are the priorities for this team?

-Develop the youth, since the entire team's future is based upon unproven and developing players atm.

-Get that youth to the point of playing well enough to reach the playoffs.

-Then it's GP's job to add the right peices to turn that playoff team to a contending team.

Because of this, I don't think Scott is the right coach, because he is often in conflicts with his young players and there have been too many to dismiss. He was ran out of town after two finals in NJ. He chases away talent in NOLA, because he clashes with young guys. The very fact that his job is questioned after a horrendous playoff performance is one red flag as well. Certain accounts from other players around the league point to him being an ego-centric hard *** on a power trip. Is he accomplished? Certainly. Qualified? Yes. Does that make him the right coach for this situation? No IMO. Nelly is accomplished and qualified, yet I don't think any fan would want him if he was avaliable. What this team needs is a coach with a proven record of developing youth and doesn't run off young talent.
 
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