Bonzi's Stock Will Soar....
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difference is that jerome james was going up against a very weak kings front line. isiah should have known better than that...
as for bonzi, he's a "power little" going up against one of the bigger teams in the league. at 6'5", he's tangling with duncan, mohammad, and nesterovic. there's opportunity to overpay, but bonzi is the kinda scrapper who's generally gonna earn his paycheck.
as for bonzi, he's a "power little" going up against one of the bigger teams in the league. at 6'5", he's tangling with duncan, mohammad, and nesterovic. there's opportunity to overpay, but bonzi is the kinda scrapper who's generally gonna earn his paycheck.
Yes, definitely. But he's not a restricted free agent. He can leave us no matter what we offer. But the cap is no restriction for us, and I think if we offer him competitive money he would like to be back (having your name chanted by 18,000 people always helps with that 
), with the only question being if we told him we are determined to start Kevin next year or something. Rick's return might potentially matter somewhat as well.
), with the only question being if we told him we are determined to start Kevin next year or something. Rick's return might potentially matter somewhat as well.
I hope we sign him. He doe so many of the intangibles this team needs, give the other team match-up problems, and can be good examples along with Ron Arest for the younger players- Martin, Cisco, even Ronnie Price... Not to mention he is almost single-handedly the reason we are outrebounding SA. He's a monster on those boards and our team needs that.
However, if we do resign him- I can tell you what I'd like him to do this summer. SHOOT FREE THROWS EVERY DAY!!! haha
However, if we do resign him- I can tell you what I'd like him to do this summer. SHOOT FREE THROWS EVERY DAY!!! haha
I remember Bonzi commenting early in the season about getting another chance with the Kings and how much he appreciated it. He also said that he loved the fans here and that he was welcomed with no baggage attached. He appreciated that as well. You gotta believe having 17,000 plus fans chanting Bon-ZI...Bon-ZI had to have made him feel like a million bucks. Here is hoping that his appreciation for Sacramento, the franchise, and the fans will mean a lot to him when it comes to our competing for him.
Good point, Gadget.
Anyone have any thoughts as to what his market value will be? Obviously, if he were 23 instead of 29 he'd get offered more that what he will be.
It's my though that he may get a contract in the 4 years/36 million range. Honestly can't see anyone offering him more years or money than that.
Any other projections here?
Anyone have any thoughts as to what his market value will be? Obviously, if he were 23 instead of 29 he'd get offered more that what he will be.
It's my though that he may get a contract in the 4 years/36 million range. Honestly can't see anyone offering him more years or money than that.
Any other projections here?
I think a 6 year deal around the 40 million dollar mark sounds right to me.
Anything to far over that, I just don't see us re-signing him. We have two young SG's, one a star in the making, and as much as I want Bonzi back, the Maloofs can't give out another bloated deal. Of course they always seem to do it. We'll see I guess.
But I do want Bonzi back more than anything.
Anything to far over that, I just don't see us re-signing him. We have two young SG's, one a star in the making, and as much as I want Bonzi back, the Maloofs can't give out another bloated deal. Of course they always seem to do it. We'll see I guess.
But I do want Bonzi back more than anything.
6 yrs 40 mil is way below market value.
He's being paid $8mil now. That's a nice baseline and you kind of go from there. You'll want to try to shave the years if possible. Hold it to 5 maybe. Try to keep the overall deal below $50 mil if possible.
Look at it this way. We are already paying $8 mil this year for the "services" of Corliss and Potapenko. When you are pissing money down the drain like that, shouldn't even make you blink to pay it to Bonzi.
He's being paid $8mil now. That's a nice baseline and you kind of go from there. You'll want to try to shave the years if possible. Hold it to 5 maybe. Try to keep the overall deal below $50 mil if possible.
Look at it this way. We are already paying $8 mil this year for the "services" of Corliss and Potapenko. When you are pissing money down the drain like that, shouldn't even make you blink to pay it to Bonzi.
But its also the last year of his previous deal with increases coming every year. When I said "around" I meant anywhere in the 40 million dollar range. 42-48. I could see closer to 50 I guess.
I do see your point, and the Maloofs have shown in the past that they'll spend whatever is needed if they want something bad enough.
I do see your point, and the Maloofs have shown in the past that they'll spend whatever is needed if they want something bad enough.
I say this everytime, but I loved Bonzi in Portland, I loved Bonzi in Memphis, when I heard he was coming to Sacramento, I was estatic. Considering his reputation, it was his relentless effort and passion that made me love him so much. We finally got him, and is the only trade I approved 100% for. We can't let him go. If we do, I'll lay in the street with G3.
Remember -- Bonzi is ALREADY earning $8million.
Therefore when this season is over, that $8 million comes off the books, and off our cap + can be used to resign him. But it can NOT be used to sign a new big man, because we are way over the cap and restricted to the MLE in the free agent market.
We will basically be resigning Bonzi with the same money we are already paying him.
Now that WOULD mean that if we wanted to sign somebody with the MLE, or sign a first round draft pick, that it might put us over the luxury tax threshhold. But here's the thing: we have $29 million in salaries tied up in these 5 players : Brad Miller, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Kenny Thomas, Vitaly Potapenko, and Corliss Willaimson. The very same 5 guys that need to be replaced/upgraded. Hell after this series you could replace ALL of them and it wouldn't make me unhappy. That $29mil is where you should be finding a way to pay a new frontcourt player or two.
Therefore when this season is over, that $8 million comes off the books, and off our cap + can be used to resign him. But it can NOT be used to sign a new big man, because we are way over the cap and restricted to the MLE in the free agent market.
We will basically be resigning Bonzi with the same money we are already paying him.
Now that WOULD mean that if we wanted to sign somebody with the MLE, or sign a first round draft pick, that it might put us over the luxury tax threshhold. But here's the thing: we have $29 million in salaries tied up in these 5 players : Brad Miller, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Kenny Thomas, Vitaly Potapenko, and Corliss Willaimson. The very same 5 guys that need to be replaced/upgraded. Hell after this series you could replace ALL of them and it wouldn't make me unhappy. That $29mil is where you should be finding a way to pay a new frontcourt player or two.