Artest for Maggette trade officially dead

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This from the ESPN Insider
Dec 31 - Closing the door on a potential trade for Ron Artest, the Clippers are no longer pursuing a deal for the Sacramento Kings standout swingman, Clippers GM Elgin Baylor said Saturday.
"As far as anything goes with Ron Artest, that's a dead issue," Baylor said. "We're no longer talking to Sacramento about Artest ... that's not going to happen." -- Los Angeles Times
Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy reportedly said he believes he can handle Artest. In other news, Dunleavy thinks that time travel and flying cars are just a few weeks from invention. Who are we kidding here? Dunleavy, a genial but demanding coach, can't even get along with Corey Maggette, who isn't a bad guy. What exactly makes Dunleavy, or anyone else in the Clippers organization, think this would work out? -- Los Angeles Daily News


Now the Clippers are talking with the Spurs, but nothing will probably happen there.

Dec 31 - Spurs officials have spoken with the Clippers about forward Corey Maggette, but one NBA source said Saturday a trade between the teams likely "won't happen." The Clippers would be intrigued by an offer of Brent Barry and Beno Udrih, but the Spurs consider it too risky to part with two of their best ball-handlers. Some Spurs officials also are extremely hesitant to include Barry in any type of deal for Maggette given that Barry has been the team's most dependable reserve while ranking second in the league in 3-point accuracy. -- San Antonio Express-News
 
We are so screwed, of course they don't want him after his performance. AKA a coach killer. ALSO nice job last nite RON...
 
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Yeah they probably were scared away about dealing with him as a person. I don't think it had to do with anything about his performance, they understand he had a sore back side of the knee.

I think this was a purely a, "Eh, we better not go there.".
 
I do not know how much stock I would put in a report like this. I am not saying that the deal will happen. Rather, when GP makes a deal, it typically is not forcasted very well at all in the media. I still have a feeling that a big trade (probably Artest) will happen soon.
 
It also could very well have nothing to do with Artest himself (or his performance last night). How about this scenario:

Geoff: Well, Elgin, I just don't see any more reason to talk about this. You are not willing to get us what we need (or unable to get another team to work with us). We gotta get a big man out of this or it's not worth losing Ron.

Elgin: Okay, Geoff, if you're sure we cannot work anything out, then I'll look at other avenues for Maggette. Take care, man.

:p
 
kupman said:
I do not know how much stock I would put in a report like this. I am not saying that the deal will happen. Rather, when GP makes a deal, it typically is not forcasted very well at all in the media. I still have a feeling that a big trade (probably Artest) will happen soon.
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You're right about Petrie, but this report isn't come out of Sacramento, or from Petrie. It's always the otherside where the info gets talked about or leaked. I'll trust it at this poing.

I'm not disagreeing that they still will try to move Ron, but I'm just saying it's probably not going to happen with the Clippers.
 
Onto Miami. They need the help anyway.


And as an aside, note the absolute confirmation that they were talking Artest with L.A. -- that was their GM talking there, and he said we are NO LONGER talking to Sacramento about Artest.

Do not discount Ron's terrible performance either -- right in front of the owner, they get a first hand view of Ron beign irrelevant. Combined wiht potential chemistry disaster, that's enough to scare off many a team. You risk the chemistry, maybe, for Ron the constant impact guy. But when he comes out and shows he can be completely invisible, now that's scary.
 
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From Ron Artest to Brent Barry. Wow, what a step in the right direction HA!!!

Petrie hung the phone up you best believe that.
 
Bricklayer said:
Do not discount Ron's terrible performance either -- right in front of the owner, they get a first hand view of Ron beign irrelevant. Combined wiht potential chemistry disaster, that's enough to scare off many a team. You risk the chemistry, maybe, for Ron the constant impact guy. But when he comes out and shows he can be completely invisible, now that's scary.
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And I would add the true scary part is he did exactly that. Something is not right upstairs with him.

And to be honest, I am tired of GM's giving these type of personalities chances. Sure he got us a first round boot last year. What is that, end goal a ring...

RING OR BUST, Ron-Ron will not be here when that happens.
 
Kev.in said:
Yeah, this is one of those "dead" deals that was actually never even alive.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2715587

The Los Angeles Clippers are no longer in the running to swing a trade for ]Ron Artest, general manager Elgin Baylor said Saturday.

"As far as anything goes with Ron Artest, that's a dead issue," Baylor said, according to the Los Angeles Times. "We're no longer talking to Sacramento about Artest … that's not going to happen."

The Sacramento Kings contacted the Clippers last week to discuss the possibility of a trade for the former NBA defensive player of the year. The Kings did not, however, follow up the opening talks with a formal trade proposal.

Baylor said the Clippers are still looking at other possible deals.

"We're always looking to improve the team," Baylor said, according to the Times. "We talk to teams regularly about players we're interested in, players that we think can help us, and we'll also listen if someone comes to us with something that we think makes sense for us. That's what you have to do when you're trying to win."

The Clippers are 14-16 and have won four of their last five -- including one against the Kings -- since a six-game losing streak dropped them to a season-worst five games under .500.
 
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GOOD!

I would have been pist if we got Maggette straight up for Ron... and with our luck that probibly would have been the case.
 
Cal-Kings said:
I never believed this in the first place. It was all from LA's point of view, from LA's perspective.
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Exactly...
I don't know about you but to me it really looked like LA was trying to get in the head of Artest so that they can get him for less... pretty sleazy.
 
You guys, know you don't want to believe it, but there were clearly talks. Mentioned before, read that Baylor quote. There was at least a phone call. Maybe more. One suspects clearly are talks with other teams. Just no Maggette for Artest swap.
 
Bricklayer said:
You guys, know you don't want to believe it, but there were clearly talks. Mentioned before, read that Baylor quote. There was at least a phone call. Maybe more. One suspects clearly are talks with other teams. Just no Maggette for Artest swap.
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I can believe that the Clippers phoned up Petrie.

It was in the Clippers interest to "leak" this "trade rumor".

I just think Petrie said "no thanks" and now the Clippers have to have some reason it didn't happen.
 
I will agree that Petrie might be open to a trade for Artest given the right circumstances.

But every player is tradeable given the right circumstances.
 
to me ron artest is a great player, this guy hustles every game if he isn't working on the offensive end he's working on the boards and defensive end, i'm glad the trade rumors are dead now sacramento can finally make a push, i believe we have a great team as soon as ron and bibby get on the right track we will be fine BIBBY,MARTIN,ARTEST,THOMAS,MILLER killer team.
 
uptempo-kings said:
to me ron artest is a great player, this guy hustles every game if he isn't working on the offensive end he's working on the boards and defensive end, i'm glad the trade rumors are dead now sacramento can finally make a push, i believe we have a great team as soon as ron and bibby get on the right track we will be fine BIBBY,MARTIN,ARTEST,THOMAS,MILLER killer team.
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One of us has not seen last couple games or so.


I am sure that Spurs,Mavs, Suns, Jazz and even Nuggets, Lakers and Rockets are already shaking.
 
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I don't know how you could base a player on 3-4 games so if kmart did bad in 4 games you would trade him to? it isn't just artest it's the whole team chemistry, ron artest is just a scape goat a reason to blame, because the kings are under .500, i've seen artest play in couple of the last games yes he has had some bad games but who doesn't we have 45+ games left to play, and basketball is a game of adjustments, and ronron will find his way just like bibby will, because great players find a way, to improve their team overall, kings 4-life but still a Ron Artest fan hands down! think twice,three times before crictizing a former 2x defensive player of the year!
 
1x DPOY, and Ron is clearly a special case. Special not being a good thing here. There are no adjustments, no trust, no normal ways to predict the future in Ron's case. He's a nutter. He doesn't respond to anything, posiitve or negative, the way a normal person does. And if you ignore the weirdness warning signs, then maybe you end up like the Pacers as one day he just walks out. You cannot count on the sorts of things or process that you could count on with 99% of the remaining players in the NBA. You have to learn how to speak "Artest", and so far as I know, nobody actually knows how. And so blissfully saying "oh it will all be right" because the classic warning signs that a normal player would give off aren't 100% indispuatably there in Ron's case, is irrelevant. Ron isn't normal. His warning signs aren't normal. And in fact I would argue that he has been signalling us about as loudly as he can in his own strange way.
 
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uptempo-kings: There's the paradox of Ron Artest. He may be the "former 2x defensive player of the year" but unless you've been living in a cave for the past two years, you cannot deny the problems he caused for the Indiana Pacers.

Sorry, but he's not just an innocent scapegoat. Those who do not learn from history are, in fact, doomed to repeat it. If you're not at least a little concerend about what's been happening with Artest this season, then you simply haven't been paying attention.
 
just that ronron have so much potential :(, i just hate to see the kings struggle like this well im still with the kings with or without artest!

go SACRAMENTO!
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Peep that for laughs.

EDIT: Link to a Laker site has been removed for fairly obvious reasons...
 
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uptempo-kings said:
just that ronron have so much potential :(, i just hate to see the kings struggle like this well im still with the kings with or without artest!
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Problem with Ron, unfortunately, is that he's crazy. Seriously delusional.

Despite the boatload of natural talent, despite the potential to get even better, he will never be as good a player as he seems to think he already is. Therefore, he will never get the type/amount of respect that he thinks he deserves. That equals trouble.

I was all for bringing Ron here when we had someone like Adelman to handle his ego. I have zero faith in Musselman's ability to do the same. Between that, some of the comments that he's made this season, and the various indications that it was the Clippers that decided they didn't want to risk losing Maggette for our nutjob, I'm officially nervous.
 
Bricklayer said:
You guys, know you don't want to believe it, but there were clearly talks. Mentioned before, read that Baylor quote. There was at least a phone call. Maybe more. One suspects clearly are talks with other teams. Just no Maggette for Artest swap.
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"Talks" Happen on a frequent basis between most GMs. GP hs stated several times he gets calls from a myriad of GMs who call and throw ideas back and forth every other week or so. Whether they ever get serious is a different matter.
 
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