[NBA] Comments that don't warrant their own thread OCT/NOV

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Mr. S£im Citrus

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Only the Knicks could overcome twenty-point deficits to force overtime and take their first lead in overtime on back-to-back nights... and still lose both games. How do you have two guys go for thirty-plus and lose at home?

Still, though... a hundred an thirteen minutes of basketball in twenty-six hours, and come away with squat; if it weren't the Knicks, I'd feel sorry for them.
 
Widowmaker2k

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Add to that, their rookie, 8th overall pick, had DNP-Coach's Decision both night. Considering that several of the players picked after him are already making positive impacts on their respective teams...ouch.

Edit: Holy ****, Gallinari took 16 threes? He made 8 of them, but damn...
 
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Widowmaker2k said:
Add to that, their rookie, 8th overall pick, had DNP-Coach's Decision both night. Considering that several of the players picked after him are already making positive impacts on their respective teams...ouch.

Edit: Holy ****, Gallinari took 16 threes? He made 8 of them, but damn...
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He's there to shoot - that's it. Remembmer, this is the SSOL offense - that kind of stuff is REQUIRED of a SG/SF, hell even the C. Hill needs to learn how to shoot 3s and fast, otherwise he will have many more of those.

Seriously though, this team will never be competitive with D'Antoni. He runs the same style of offense without the same players - great comeback bu the Knicks, but the Sixers let them back in it - once they decided to play again it was over.
 
gunks

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As I write this...Pheonix's starting C, Channing Frye, is 6-10 from 3..with only 3 rebounds in 30+ minutes. Hawes WISHES he was that badass a center!

Also...Thabust or Thabeast? 6 boards, 4 blocks in 9 minutes of PT against the Nuggets.


edit: bust. Thabeet fouled out in 11 minutes.
 
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gunks said:
As I write this...Pheonix's starting C, Channing Frye, is 6-10 from 3..with only 3 rebounds in 30+ minutes. Hawes WISHES he was that badass a center!

Also...Thabust or Thabeast? 6 boards, 4 blocks in 9 minutes of PT against the Nuggets.


edit: bust. Thabeet fouled out in 11 minutes.
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Here I was about to say something about the great stats. You're right. Foul out that early = BUST!!
 
gunks

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I meant bust as in tonight...Not so much career wise :p
Although to be honest I want every rook to bust but Tyreke, Brockman, and Casspi.

Impressive stats nonetheless. And Baby Gasol had himself a game too.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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Gerald Wallace just became the second player in Bobcats history to have 20/20 in a game.

It was actually more like 24/20, plus four steals and a block... Not that I'm beating a dead horse, or anything...

Game was bowling-shoe ugly, though... :eek:
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Gerald Wallace just became the second player in Bobcats history to have 20/20 in a game.

It was actually more like 24/20, plus four steals and a block... Not that I'm beating a dead horse, or anything...
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Does that discussion still qualify as a dead horse? Don't we need some other way to describe that?

Regardless, heckuva game by Wallace.
 
gunks

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Jennings is a beast. I want Tyreke to put up another near triple double on him.



Dirk crushed the Jazz tonight. Had a 29/5.....4th quarter (!!!!)
 
kennadog

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Mad D said:
Rondo to Paul:

"I got a ring, and your never gonna get one"

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And if Rondo had been drafted by the Kings or even NO, he still wouldn't have one either. Some people just don't recognize how much luck and timing are involved in winning a championship.

Pretty classless. I read an article that said Allen went to the NO locker room after the game to apologize to Paul for Rondo's behavior.
 
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shows why the Cs were reluctant to give Rondo the extension. I can't wait to see what he can do with a subpar supporting cast. Although, I'm surprised that this got under Paul's skin so much... he reportedly went into the Cs tunnel to confront Rondo after the game.
 
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kennadog said:
And if Rondo had been drafted by the Kings or even NO, he still wouldn't have one either. Some people just don't recognize how much luck and timing are involved in winning a championship.

Pretty classless. I read an article that said Allen went to the NO locker room after the game to apologize to Paul for Rondo's behavior.
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Eh, it's a competition thing. I'm sure Paul churns out his own share of trash talk. Rondo saying he's got a ring and Paul doesn't is fair game, even if everyone knows he's only got the ring because he's got three hall-of-famers on his team. Besides, he's got Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett as role models. You don't think those guys talk trash? Ray Allen probably apologizes for them after the games too (he is Jesus after all ;) ).
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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swisshh said:
Omri and Jennings show that overseas pro league experience might have a foot up [sic] on college experience.
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Does it come as a surprise to anyone that seasoned professionals are better competition than 19-20 year-old amateurs? Why do you think that the United States stopped sending amateurs to compete against the rest of the world's professionals? He should have a leg up on most of those who went to college, at least those who were only there for a year. It's not as if good players stick around anymore: anybody who's any good is going to leave after a year. Is it really surprising that nearly every rookie that's gotten off to a fast start either played pro ball overseas, or at least two years of college?

Not sure which side of the argument you're advocating with that statement, though; to me, it only goes to show that they should make a two-year requirement for entry to the NBA.
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:

Not sure which side of the argument you're advocating with that statement, though; to me, it only goes to show that they should make a two-year requirement for entry to the NBA.
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Without getting too much into this - it's not as simple. Personally, if you're ready, you're ready. I don't know if that extra year will make that much of a difference. Jennings had pitiful stats in the Euroleague, and by all accounts was even more immature and a whiner. Jennings had premier skills straight out of HS - not sure if they improved much, or at all while in Europe. Players need constant playing time and good coaching. I would be for a "minor leauge" system, sort of like the MLB does it. If you're going to send them to college, make them go all 4 years. I don't know, I grew up in the ghetto of chicago and a majority of us all hoped we could play ball and pay our bills. if you're good enough go and play. All these teams have high paid scouts. Make them do their job. send their *** to europe or to HS games. I'm just venting.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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There is, ostensibly, a minor league. But good luck trying to get a prep standout to settle for thirty grand to play in the d-league.
 
Widowmaker2k

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What's up with Anthony Randolph? I thought Nelson had more trust in him and was ready to let him be a major part of that GSW team? Injured? Hell, if GS is still looking to trade him, get on the phone Geoff...
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
Does it come as a surprise to anyone that seasoned professionals are better competition than 19-20 year-old amateurs? Why do you think that the United States stopped sending amateurs to compete against the rest of the world's professionals? He should have a leg up on most of those who went to college, at least those who were only there for a year. It's not as if good players stick around anymore: anybody who's any good is going to leave after a year. Is it really surprising that nearly every rookie that's gotten off to a fast start either played pro ball overseas, or at least two years of college?

Not sure which side of the argument you're advocating with that statement, though; to me, it only goes to show that they should make a two-year requirement for entry to the NBA.
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I would be on the pro overseas experience argument. Not only is the competition there higher than against many college teams, but they run legit offenses.
 
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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
There is, ostensibly, a minor league. But good luck trying to get a prep standout to settle for thirty grand to play in the d-league.
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That's trully the reason why I have not beat this drum. You take a look at MLB for example, the top pitcher was touted as the best prospect ever, and had the numbers to back them up. They promptly shoved him into the *Fall Leauge* AKA where the old washed up players go and young ones who want to play year round and polish their game. It didn't hurt that he got a 15 Million signing bonus, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's expected for players to go through the system. In the NBA, it's a right to go in the lottery if you have one successfull season in college. It's the fault of the media, the system, the fans, everybody. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here, baseball is different, but it's just common sense. With this 1 year rule all we're getting is essentially high school kids with one year of screwing around. Yes, they got some experience playing on a higher stage and got some better coaching, but the style of play, the offenses, the defensive schemes are all different. One year of college does not prepare you for the NBA.

Again... rant
 
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Oprostaj said:
That's trully the reason why I have not beat this drum. You take a look at MLB for example, the top pitcher was touted as the best prospect ever, and had the numbers to back them up. They promptly shoved him into the *Fall Leauge* AKA where the old washed up players go and young ones who want to play year round and polish their game. It didn't hurt that he got a 15 Million signing bonus, but the point I'm trying to make is that it's expected for players to go through the system. In the NBA, it's a right to go in the lottery if you have one successfull season in college. It's the fault of the media, the system, the fans, everybody. I know I'm comparing apples and oranges here, baseball is different, but it's just common sense. With this 1 year rule all we're getting is essentially high school kids with one year of screwing around. Yes, they got some experience playing on a higher stage and got some better coaching, but the style of play, the offenses, the defensive schemes are all different. One year of college does not prepare you for the NBA.

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Baseball is a horse of a different color. Everything from the way rookies are introduced to the majors to when they finally become free agents is different, which is why there's no huge outcry about Stephen Strasburg getting paid so much money (really not all that much in comparison with NBA and NFL rookies; four years, $15 million; the #1 pick in the NBA gets three years, $13 million, and let's not even talk about how much the #1 pick gets in the NFL).

And MLB has a true minor league system with three different leagues, plus winter ball. So a rookie can prove himself on a smaller stage before you throw him to the wolves. The NBDL is a joke compared to Triple-A ball, in every conceivable way. And college basketball doesn't compare to college football, when it comes to the level of competition, primarily because the best players don't stay.

(I finally realized a couple of years ago why I don't enjoy college basketball: it's the shot clock. It fundamentally changes the game, I think even more than zone defenses and a closer three point line do. It certainly affects my level of enjoyment more.)

Anyways, I don't think the NBA can really do anything about the way the young players come into the league. Front offices can stop drafting project players, and maybe that will influence some of these young kids to stay in college longer to work on their game and really prove themselves. But I don't think there's any rule change that will really get to the heart of the problem, other than forcing kids to stay longer, and that's counter-productive and might even hurt NCAA with boosters and scandals and such.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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Superman said:
(I finally realized a couple of years ago why I don't enjoy college basketball: it's the shot clock. It fundamentally changes the game, I think even more than zone defenses and a closer three point line do. It certainly affects my level of enjoyment more.)
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You have my attention...
 
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There are differences. Doesn't stop like in the NBA, longer... a couple of other ones. Screws me up when I watch it too. Sort of like how in college football, the clock stops on every first down (W.T.F.)... you know, subtle stuff that scratches at you if you follow pro ball.
 
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