[Game] 25/82: Kings vs. Jazz 08 DEC 2024, 6pm PT/9pm ET

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If you have heard the preface to this, MB is absolutely right.


Kings have a tendency to let down the focus after a few good plays and give an opening to the opponent to breathe and get confidence. It's all about stacking the good plays one after another for a sustained period of time. Now, the opponents are falling behind and they start doing mistakes under scoreboard pressure. They start coughing up turnovers and now you are off running in transition. It's an avalanche effect.

Props to MB for keeping that focus from the sidelines. Apart from a couple of pull up three point attempts by Fox early in the shot clock, the team was mostly disciplined. We were well spaced and hugged the corners on offense spreading their defense. We got good shots almost all night. 125 ppg is not out of the realm of possibility for this team.

On defense, we played with active hands and won most of the hustle plays. Keegan was fantastic against Lauri and he got team help whenever Lauri drove. Team did a good job protecting the paint against a long team. We could use some improvement in the three point defense but it was better than what we have usually do. Holding a team that just dropped 141 points to under 100 is good work.
 
Good news is this recent 3-1 stretch has us just 2 back of the 6 seed. We're still at the back of the pack, but at least we're still attached to the pack. For as bad as that 1-6 stretch was, we're starting to recover a bit here.
As I mentioned about a week ago or so, as long as the KINGS point differential continues to be in the positive (+3.2 as of tonight) then the odds remain good that their record will balance out for the better over the long haul.

Every team in the top 7 in the West has a positive point differential (same is true of the East).

The KINGS and T-Wolves are the only teams currently outside of the top 7 with positive point differential.

If they can keep that up, they should be climbing past a few teams relatively soon.
 
Don’t look now but the Kings are now 6th in ORTG despite being 21st in 3P% and 24th in 3PA.

Pretty crazy how good this offense could be if our shooters just hit their 3s at a decent clip.



EDIT: Just to play around with some math, if we shot 39.3% from three (currently 34.9%), we’d be…
  • 4th in 3P% (behind CLE, NYK, & MIL)
  • 1st In ORTG at 121.2
  • 4th in NetRTG at +8.5 (behind OKC, CLE, & BOS)
And all of that is without changing…
  • The amount of 3PAs we take (we’d still be 24th in the league)
  • The amount of 3PAs we give up (we’d still be 27th in the league)
  • The 3P% we give up (we’d still be 29th in the league)
Now do I think we’ll be able to shoot 39.3% from 3 as a team? Most likely not considering we got guys like Fox and DeRozan that aren’t exactly sharpshooters, but if we can just be around 36-37% (what we were the last 2 seasons) and make some improvements defending the 3, we might all of a sudden be a team with a top 5 ORTG and a top 10 DRTG (especially if we can swap someone like Huerter for DFS) which will make that NetRTG look real nice.

In fact, there are 4 teams in the league right now that have both a Top 5 ORTG and a Top 10 DRTG. Heres the list with their NetRTGs:

CLE = +9.7 (2nd in the league)
BOS = +9.3 (3rd in the league)
MEM = +8.0 (4th in the league)
DAL = +7.2 (5th in the league)
 
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Don’t look now but the Kings are now 6th in ORTG despite being 21st in 3P% and 24th in 3PA.

Pretty crazy how good this offense could be if our shooters just hit their 3s at a decent clip.



EDIT: Just to play around with some math, if we shot 39.3% from three (currently 34.9%), we’d be…
  • 4th in 3P% (behind CLE, NYK, & MIL)
  • 1st In ORTG at 121.2
  • 4th in NetRTG at +8.5 (behind OKC, CLE, & BOS)
And all of that is without changing…
  • The amount of 3PAs we take (we’d still be 24th in the league)
  • The amount of 3PAs we give up (we’d still be 27th in the league)
  • The 3P% we give up (we’d still be 29th in the league
Now do I think we’ll be able to be a team that shoots 39.3% from 3? Probably not considering we got guys like Fox and DeRozan, but if we can just be around 36-37% (what we were the last 2 seasons) and make some improvements defending the 3, that NetRTG might all of a sudden start to look really solid.
Kings are currently 13th in DRTG, as well. Pretty firmly in the top-half of the league. So some of the coaching staff's defensive principles are bearing fruit, and if the Kings can close out shooters in an improved fashion as they did against the Jazz, we should theoretically see a continued rise up the standings. A team with a top-6 offense and a top-13 defense isn't exactly a world-beater, but such a team is certainly better than .500. The Kings should be a winning team even if the record doesn't quite reflect that yet.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

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Kings are currently 13th in DRTG, as well. Pretty firmly in the top-half of the league. So some of the coaching staff's defensive principles are bearing fruit, and if the Kings can close out shooters in an improved fashion as they did against the Jazz, we should theoretically see a continued rise up the standings. A team with a top-6 offense and a top-13 defense isn't exactly a world-beater, but such a team is certainly better than .500. The Kings should be a winning team even if the record doesn't quite reflect that yet.
Kings' net rating is +3.2. Their expected W-L record based on that net rating should have been 15-10.
 
Man when Huerter and Murray have it going it's crazy how different their shots look. When Murray's off his shots have low release points and way less arc, when Huerter is off he tends to fadeaway and kick his feet out more. Yesterday he was going straight up and looked like Ray Allen. He was way more consistent in his mechanics.
 
As I mentioned about a week ago or so, as long as the KINGS point differential continues to be in the positive (+3.2 as of tonight) then the odds remain good that their record will balance out for the better over the long haul.

Every team in the top 7 in the West has a positive point differential (same is true of the East).

The KINGS and T-Wolves are the only teams currently outside of the top 7 with positive point differential.

If they can keep that up, they should be climbing past a few teams relatively soon.
What do you mean by "balance out?" Do you mean they should be a .500 team or do you mean that they should be somewhere in the top nine (7 + 2 teams not in top 7)?
 
Don’t look now but the Kings are now 6th in ORTG despite being 21st in 3P% and 24th in 3PA.

Pretty crazy how good this offense could be if our shooters just hit their 3s at a decent clip.



EDIT: Just to play around with some math, if we shot 39.3% from three (currently 34.9%), we’d be…
  • 4th in 3P% (behind CLE, NYK, & MIL)
  • 1st In ORTG at 121.2
  • 4th in NetRTG at +8.5 (behind OKC, CLE, & BOS)
And all of that is without changing…
  • The amount of 3PAs we take (we’d still be 24th in the league)
  • The amount of 3PAs we give up (we’d still be 27th in the league)
  • The 3P% we give up (we’d still be 29th in the league
Now do I think we’ll be able to be a team that shoots 39.3% from 3? Probably not considering we got guys like Fox and DeRozan, but if we can just be around 36-37% (what we were the last 2 seasons) and make some improvements defending the 3, that NetRTG might all of a sudden start to look really solid.
Yeah, it's been THE problem all year. If we can just get to normalized 3pt shooting and 3pt defense, I think this team has a very clear path to being a top 6 seed.
 
I’m honestly really glad we didn’t trade for Siakim. DeRozan and the team were cooking a bit more and finding a rhythm before he got hurt, and that completely screwed with momentum. I just want us to stay healthy so they know just how good they can be.
 

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How did he decide it was time to stop? lol
He reached the end of quarter.
26 possessions is the right number for a quarter...

He's trying to make these guys understand that winning teams don't have the kinds of highs and lows that we've been experiencing in November. The 42 point quarter followed by the 12 point quarter. Spending 10 minutes building a lead only to give it all back in 2 minutes. What good teams do is they just make the right play every time or as close to every time as possible. That's how this team can grow from being a team which wins half of their games to a team which wins 60-70% of their games.
 

Defined set plays gives better structure to our offense. Notice how the player movements are crisp without hesitation. Love how we have integrated the midrange game of DeRozan within the flow of the offense. The opponents know what is coming but still can't do anything to stop it. Love the emphasis on pace and getting a first look with transition offense and transitioning into set plays when the defense is under pressure. The versatility of our offense is something that we have barely started tapping into.
 
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