2022 Free Agent Targets
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Can bamaba play next to sabonis? I think he could but it would have to be in spots. Id rather however go after portis. He was cheap this year but i think will need at least 10M/year to grab him up. He is one of the best defenders at the 4 and has a solid perimeter game. We could also try to see about swapping picks with OKC and putting extra incentives like Holmes amd a future pick and a second to go get Jabari Smith (not sure they would take that deal though).
Yeah, I'm in. Everyone says the Sabonis/Turner pairing didn't work... when it basically did. They weren't the reasoning behind the failure of that Pacers core (mostly Bjorken).
Bamba is really good. He's been stuck behind Vuc for the first 3 years of his career, but was always putting up great per/minute numbers. Shot 38% from 3 on 4 attempts. Is an excellent rebounder on both ends and an elite rim protector. Still just 24 years old.
I'm sure it'll be a S&T scenario of some sort. MLE probably doesn't get it done.
Bamba is really good. He's been stuck behind Vuc for the first 3 years of his career, but was always putting up great per/minute numbers. Shot 38% from 3 on 4 attempts. Is an excellent rebounder on both ends and an elite rim protector. Still just 24 years old.
I'm sure it'll be a S&T scenario of some sort. MLE probably doesn't get it done.
Probably too expensive, and I think Damian or Hartenstein are just as good for far cheaper. Another big id like to target eould be Chris Boucher. He can play the 4 or a small ball 5. Although he had a bit of a down year shooting wise, he is a very strong defender and can guard 4 or 5 and switch a bit onto the 3s and is a reasonably good weak side rim protector. Given his down year, he could likely be had for cheap.
Wings wise, Martin Twins both can create, handle the ball, and shoot. Either one would be ideal for us. Otto porter is also an option which i think will be to expensive. The other option on the wing who i think could be very good for us would be Yuta Watanabe. Martins and Watanabe will be RFA but i thinkncould be had for part of the MLE.
I would rather they be included as part of a trade for Holmes (cody and PJW for Holmes, watanabe as part of a deal for OG Ananoby).
The trade Id like to see is:
TOR Gives: OG, Boucher (S/T for $6M for 3yr) and Watanabe (S/T for $4.5M/3 years - last being TO).
SAC Gives: Holmes, Harkless, Lyles, Len, 4th overall.
Why for TOR: Gives them a big upgrade at center for relatively cheap price tag. With OG playing the same positions as Barnes and Siakam, and one being the RYO and the other making an all NBA team, he is likely the least efficient part of their wing logjam. With Len/Harkless/Lyles all coming off the books next year give them an extra $10M next year and they can go get a guy in either Shaden Sharp or more likely Ivey, who fits very well next to FVF and with Barnes and Siakam (could be one of the best starting 5 in 2-3 years).
A line up of FVF, Ivey, Barnes, Siakam, Holmes would be quite formidable.
Why for SAC: Prevents us from needing to take an ill fitting player in Ivey in place of a guy (OG who can be our wing of the future, but is already a an very strong proven 2 way player) who will likely have a better career when the dust settles the 2 or 3 of the 4 top picks this year. It also gets us a lot of depth with solid and proven NBA Caliber rotational talent who contributed in meaningful ways on Playoff teams (rather than getting cast offs players from lottery teams (lamb, holiday, Len, Harkless etc)).
We still have our MLE for DDV and to go get Hartenstein (or resign Damian Jones) and maintain financial flexibility.
Fox/Mitchell
DDV/TD/Holiday
OG/Barnes/Martin/Watabane
Barnes/Boucher/Metu
Sabonis/Hartenstein or Jones/Boucher (as small ball C)
Wings wise, Martin Twins both can create, handle the ball, and shoot. Either one would be ideal for us. Otto porter is also an option which i think will be to expensive. The other option on the wing who i think could be very good for us would be Yuta Watanabe. Martins and Watanabe will be RFA but i thinkncould be had for part of the MLE.
I would rather they be included as part of a trade for Holmes (cody and PJW for Holmes, watanabe as part of a deal for OG Ananoby).
The trade Id like to see is:
TOR Gives: OG, Boucher (S/T for $6M for 3yr) and Watanabe (S/T for $4.5M/3 years - last being TO).
SAC Gives: Holmes, Harkless, Lyles, Len, 4th overall.
Why for TOR: Gives them a big upgrade at center for relatively cheap price tag. With OG playing the same positions as Barnes and Siakam, and one being the RYO and the other making an all NBA team, he is likely the least efficient part of their wing logjam. With Len/Harkless/Lyles all coming off the books next year give them an extra $10M next year and they can go get a guy in either Shaden Sharp or more likely Ivey, who fits very well next to FVF and with Barnes and Siakam (could be one of the best starting 5 in 2-3 years).
A line up of FVF, Ivey, Barnes, Siakam, Holmes would be quite formidable.
Why for SAC: Prevents us from needing to take an ill fitting player in Ivey in place of a guy (OG who can be our wing of the future, but is already a an very strong proven 2 way player) who will likely have a better career when the dust settles the 2 or 3 of the 4 top picks this year. It also gets us a lot of depth with solid and proven NBA Caliber rotational talent who contributed in meaningful ways on Playoff teams (rather than getting cast offs players from lottery teams (lamb, holiday, Len, Harkless etc)).
We still have our MLE for DDV and to go get Hartenstein (or resign Damian Jones) and maintain financial flexibility.
Fox/Mitchell
DDV/TD/Holiday
OG/Barnes/Martin/Watabane
Barnes/Boucher/Metu
Sabonis/Hartenstein or Jones/Boucher (as small ball C)
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You know who'd be kind of a fun pairing with Fox? Lance Stephenson. He'd give us back the ''SCORES'' mentality that we sorely miss. Great handles, can create his own shot, play defense, and great at finding the open man. He would probably be devastating with Sabonis as well. Definitely older than the timeline we are on, but he brings that edge and experience that rubs off on everyone else.
Watching Gary Payton D ALL the way up and off his real breakout this season... I think the Kings are going to be enormously interested and he'll be a lynchpin for Brown's new defense with the Kings. The impact numbers are shockingly good:
LeBron- +1.9 (92nd percentile)
D-LEBRON- +1.8 (94th percentile)
RAPTOR- +1.0 (76th percentile)
LA-RAPM- +1.6 (88th percentile)
BPM 2.0- +3.7 (94th percentile)
Defensive BPM- +3.4 (98th percentile)
Defensive Net Rtg: +3.9
Overall Net Rtg: +5.9 (1249 on court minutes)
17.6 MPG
7.1 PPG
3.5 RPG
0.9 APG
1.4 SPG
35.8% 3pt (on 1.7 attempts per game)
67.9% TS
14.3% USG
10.8% TRB
Normally, I'd be scared off with a player like this who needs to be in a certain role and used properly, but he just makes all the sense in the world with Brown coming here. Watching him he looks all the part of an elite defensive difference maker and it seems like he's figured out how to be especially effective on offense with limited shot attempts while contributing nicely on the glass.
Especially with how Wiggins performed this season and in the playoffs, my guess is he and Poole become their long-term priority while Steph/Klay/Dray wind down their career and they build up Kuminga/Wiseman/Moody into key roles. I think GP and Porter are especially ripe for the taking where even GS can't afford to match a reasonable contract.
He might be my new favorite FA target. Everything just lines up so cleanly for him to come in and be a difference maker on D (Brown connection, Warriors very likely can't afford to pay him, his impact metrics are extremely good, he passes the eye test with flying colors.). Giving Brown Davion, DDV, GPII would be one hell of a start to fixing this defense.
LeBron- +1.9 (92nd percentile)
D-LEBRON- +1.8 (94th percentile)
RAPTOR- +1.0 (76th percentile)
LA-RAPM- +1.6 (88th percentile)
BPM 2.0- +3.7 (94th percentile)
Defensive BPM- +3.4 (98th percentile)
Defensive Net Rtg: +3.9
Overall Net Rtg: +5.9 (1249 on court minutes)
17.6 MPG
7.1 PPG
3.5 RPG
0.9 APG
1.4 SPG
35.8% 3pt (on 1.7 attempts per game)
67.9% TS
14.3% USG
10.8% TRB
Normally, I'd be scared off with a player like this who needs to be in a certain role and used properly, but he just makes all the sense in the world with Brown coming here. Watching him he looks all the part of an elite defensive difference maker and it seems like he's figured out how to be especially effective on offense with limited shot attempts while contributing nicely on the glass.
Especially with how Wiggins performed this season and in the playoffs, my guess is he and Poole become their long-term priority while Steph/Klay/Dray wind down their career and they build up Kuminga/Wiseman/Moody into key roles. I think GP and Porter are especially ripe for the taking where even GS can't afford to match a reasonable contract.
He might be my new favorite FA target. Everything just lines up so cleanly for him to come in and be a difference maker on D (Brown connection, Warriors very likely can't afford to pay him, his impact metrics are extremely good, he passes the eye test with flying colors.). Giving Brown Davion, DDV, GPII would be one hell of a start to fixing this defense.
I'd be ok with Mo Bamba. I think the biggest issue with him is his motor, and he gets lost om defense at times. I think his problem is that he doesn't play like a center, he plays more like a PF that has been forced to play C. On the King's Sabonis can guard the big meanies and Mo Bamba can guard the 4s. He's like Chet, nimble enough to guard on the perimeter except he also has a massive 7'10" wingspan; although, Chet's isn't bad either at 7'6".
Yes, please. Kings need a dude, who does the dirty work.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267430/Hornets-Kings-Have-Interest-In-Signing-Kevon-Looney
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/267430/Hornets-Kings-Have-Interest-In-Signing-Kevon-Looney
Pretty much anyone can play that Looney role, but I don't know if they can play it well. He has that zone moving screen thing down on offense where they (Draymond, Looney, GP 2.0, or Iggy) will hand the ball off and literally run to a spot on the perimeter to set a screen. The Kings certainly haven't had any excellent screeners for years. On defense, Looney's ability to rebound outside of his area is underrated. I don't think Bamba can rebound at that rate outside of his area. Blocking? Bamba > Looney.
Great find. Going to be 24 next season, fell out of the rotation last year with Minny after being 20+ MPG the first 3 years and a starter. Nigerian national team connection with Brown too, so he'll be very familiar how to use him. 6'4 with a 7'0 wingspan is excellent and defensive impact stats for the most part think he's pretty good
He's like very very bad on offense though. There's like nothing to point to that's even positive offensively for him. Not a playmaker/creator, not a shooter, not a scorer, inefficient.
I'll take Payton or Porter first, but he wouldn't be a bad buy-low fall back option. No doubt he'd improve the defense.
He's like very very bad on offense though. There's like nothing to point to that's even positive offensively for him. Not a playmaker/creator, not a shooter, not a scorer, inefficient.
I'll take Payton or Porter first, but he wouldn't be a bad buy-low fall back option. No doubt he'd improve the defense.
My home-run rest of the season would be:
Holmes for Kleber. Yes, I know they just traded for Wood, but I think the Mavs would still jump at a chance to lock in a player they've coveted at a low cost; especially since they're essentially going to be capped out with the Luka extension kicking in. There's no guarantee they keep Wood and Kleber/Powell are both headed to UFA as well.
For us, we get off the long-term money of Holmes, who just isn't a long-term fit to play next to Sabonis and get a test run of 4/5 combo forward Kleber. He's an excellent rim protector capable of playing the 4, super versatile on defense and can give really fun looks with him at the small-ball as a good spacer on offense. He had a bit of a down year and impact metrics still thought he was really good across the board. If it doesn't work, we get a l little extra cash for the 2023 off-season.
Resign DDV. Absolute no-brainer to match anything in the $8-$12 mil range. We can't replace the production with anyone in FA and there's no Ivey blocking his playing time. I know Ham pushed that story and is still trying to say he's pissed at the Kings, but I'm not sure how much it matters. I suppose he could play for the QO, but that would be crazy to me coming off the injury that he did and if he were staring a 3-4 year deal for $10mil/season in the face. All his public comments were really positive about the Kings and about how he wanted to build things here, how appreciative he was for the FO getting him 2 years later. Gentry isn't on the bench either, so that obstacle is removed.
Sign Gary Payton II with the MLE: 3year/$15 million. I think GPII is going to be a ridiculous value for whoever ponies up $5-$7mil/season for him. To me, that's the range where the Warriors probably have to let him and turn to someone like Moody to try and fill his role. He was ridiculously good on defense last season; like he should have gotten legitimate All Defensive team love for how impactful. And we saw in the finals how much of a swing talent he was to help them win a title. Impact stats absolutely adore him and Bball-Index defensive stats basically say he was like the best perimeter defender in the game last year. Obviously familiar with Mike Brown's system and can be a key part to bring us up to speed with his concepts. If the Kings are serious about actually getting better on defense, you start by acquiring actually good defensive players like GPII.
And I have no idea if the offense will stick, but he gave a passable enough 3pt shot and was super efficient overall with his limited looks. 67.9% TS, 35.8% 3pt. With his defense, that's all you need to keep him on the floor.
Sign Isaiah Hartenstein with the MLE: 3 yr/$15 mil. This is wishful thinking that teams will let him go this cheap, but I'd give it a shot of structuring the MLE/BAE in any way possible where we can ink both him and GPII. He's just flat out good. He's an excellent rim protector, excellent rebounder, super efficient on offense (66% TS on 18% USG), is a sneaky elite passer that can run a lot of the same sets/DHO stuff we do with Sabonis. He was 7th among all bigs in AST rate last season, only behind other bigs that are all-stars/super-stars. And even more sneakily he started shooting 3's at the end of the season where he went 9-17 from 3 in their last 9 games. If that becomes consistent where he's launching 150 3's next year... he's just straight up MIL Brook Lopez with elite passing.
Everything in the stat profile just screams high level starter. Honestly, this is FVV, Boucher, Vanderbilt level easy to see the breakout potential. And with the LAC cap situation/roster crunch, I'm not sure if they'll be super excited to match a reasonable FA offer. They're at 11 guys already (10 of whom I think they'd like to play in their rotation) and probably want to hold onto Coffey's RFA status.
Fox || Mitchell
DDV || GPII || T.Davis
Barnes || Holiday || T.Davis
Murray || Kleber || Lyles
Sabonis || Hartenstein
Incredible infusion of defense, shooting and lineup versatility. Could small-ball with Kleber at the 5 in 3-Forward sets with Barnes/Murray. Could Big-Skilled ball with Sabonis/Hartenstein passing. Davion and GPII anchor the new Mike Brown defense while we have the forward horses (Barnes, Murray, Kleber) to use a lot of the same switching principles.
Holmes for Kleber. Yes, I know they just traded for Wood, but I think the Mavs would still jump at a chance to lock in a player they've coveted at a low cost; especially since they're essentially going to be capped out with the Luka extension kicking in. There's no guarantee they keep Wood and Kleber/Powell are both headed to UFA as well.
For us, we get off the long-term money of Holmes, who just isn't a long-term fit to play next to Sabonis and get a test run of 4/5 combo forward Kleber. He's an excellent rim protector capable of playing the 4, super versatile on defense and can give really fun looks with him at the small-ball as a good spacer on offense. He had a bit of a down year and impact metrics still thought he was really good across the board. If it doesn't work, we get a l little extra cash for the 2023 off-season.
Resign DDV. Absolute no-brainer to match anything in the $8-$12 mil range. We can't replace the production with anyone in FA and there's no Ivey blocking his playing time. I know Ham pushed that story and is still trying to say he's pissed at the Kings, but I'm not sure how much it matters. I suppose he could play for the QO, but that would be crazy to me coming off the injury that he did and if he were staring a 3-4 year deal for $10mil/season in the face. All his public comments were really positive about the Kings and about how he wanted to build things here, how appreciative he was for the FO getting him 2 years later. Gentry isn't on the bench either, so that obstacle is removed.
Sign Gary Payton II with the MLE: 3year/$15 million. I think GPII is going to be a ridiculous value for whoever ponies up $5-$7mil/season for him. To me, that's the range where the Warriors probably have to let him and turn to someone like Moody to try and fill his role. He was ridiculously good on defense last season; like he should have gotten legitimate All Defensive team love for how impactful. And we saw in the finals how much of a swing talent he was to help them win a title. Impact stats absolutely adore him and Bball-Index defensive stats basically say he was like the best perimeter defender in the game last year. Obviously familiar with Mike Brown's system and can be a key part to bring us up to speed with his concepts. If the Kings are serious about actually getting better on defense, you start by acquiring actually good defensive players like GPII.
And I have no idea if the offense will stick, but he gave a passable enough 3pt shot and was super efficient overall with his limited looks. 67.9% TS, 35.8% 3pt. With his defense, that's all you need to keep him on the floor.
Sign Isaiah Hartenstein with the MLE: 3 yr/$15 mil. This is wishful thinking that teams will let him go this cheap, but I'd give it a shot of structuring the MLE/BAE in any way possible where we can ink both him and GPII. He's just flat out good. He's an excellent rim protector, excellent rebounder, super efficient on offense (66% TS on 18% USG), is a sneaky elite passer that can run a lot of the same sets/DHO stuff we do with Sabonis. He was 7th among all bigs in AST rate last season, only behind other bigs that are all-stars/super-stars. And even more sneakily he started shooting 3's at the end of the season where he went 9-17 from 3 in their last 9 games. If that becomes consistent where he's launching 150 3's next year... he's just straight up MIL Brook Lopez with elite passing.
Everything in the stat profile just screams high level starter. Honestly, this is FVV, Boucher, Vanderbilt level easy to see the breakout potential. And with the LAC cap situation/roster crunch, I'm not sure if they'll be super excited to match a reasonable FA offer. They're at 11 guys already (10 of whom I think they'd like to play in their rotation) and probably want to hold onto Coffey's RFA status.
Fox || Mitchell
DDV || GPII || T.Davis
Barnes || Holiday || T.Davis
Murray || Kleber || Lyles
Sabonis || Hartenstein
Incredible infusion of defense, shooting and lineup versatility. Could small-ball with Kleber at the 5 in 3-Forward sets with Barnes/Murray. Could Big-Skilled ball with Sabonis/Hartenstein passing. Davion and GPII anchor the new Mike Brown defense while we have the forward horses (Barnes, Murray, Kleber) to use a lot of the same switching principles.