Off season targets

pdxKingsFan

pdxKingsFan

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#241
#241
Tetsujin said:
Hawks suddenly having to trade away some of their good young players because they overspent in free agency last season is not a good look. Also, the Kings should totally get in on this somehow.
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Poor Bogi not only missed out on a ring but he's about to be the scapegoat for bleeding young talent.
 
Spike

Spike

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#242
#242
Tetsujin said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1419367412022063107

Hawks suddenly having to trade away some of their good young players because they overspent in free agency last season is not a good look. Also, the Kings should totally get in on this somehow.
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This is what bothers me about "kids being on the same timeline." Contracts all come up at once, especially on rookie scales. OKC will be in the same boat - assuming you draft well, you'll have three great players but can only keep two.

Roster management isn't as black and white as some would like to believe.
 
pdxKingsFan

pdxKingsFan

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#243
#243
Spike said:
This is what bothers me about "kids being on the same timeline." Contracts all come up at once, especially on rookie scales. OKC will be in the same boat - assuming you draft well, you'll have three great players but can only keep two.

Roster management isn't as black and white as some would like to believe.
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It's ok if you have a championship team to max them all out I guess sort of happened to the Warriors. I think it was worth it for their 4 year run even if they suck for the next 5 years which I expect a small rebound from them.

But they also have to like each other, see OKC early 2010s.
 
Spike

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#244
#244
pdxKingsFan said:
It's ok if you have a championship team to max them all out I guess sort of happened to the Warriors. I think it was worth it for their 4 year run even if they suck for the next 5 years which I expect a small rebound from them.

But they also have to like each other, see OKC early 2010s.
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And Dallas in the early 90s. Dallas probably would have had a championship were it not for Toni Braxton.
 
T

The_Jamal

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#246
#246
Spike said:
This is what bothers me about "kids being on the same timeline." Contracts all come up at once, especially on rookie scales. OKC will be in the same boat - assuming you draft well, you'll have three great players but can only keep two.

Roster management isn't as black and white as some would like to believe.
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I mean kids on the same timeline is fine, but probably don't trade for Clint Capela (18 mil), Sign Bogi (18 mil) and sign Gallo (20 mil) all within the timeframe you're going to have to pay said kids.
 
hrdboild

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#251
#251
Tetsujin said:
https://twitter.com/statuses/1419693634623086594
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I have no idea what the Pelicans are trying to do if trading Ingram is part of their plan but I'm intrigued that we're mentioned as a possibility. He wouldn't be a big boost to our defense but he's good enough and he represents a legit option for a young go-to scorer in the half court which is a significant piece worth talking about. Trading Buddy back to New Orleans to help space the floor for Zion makes a lot of sense for them but I don't know what else they would want from us.
 
iowamcnabb

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#252
#252
Dime Dropper said:
Was just about to post that. Don't think we have the assets to make it happen, but it would be almost perfect.

Buddy/Bagley/9 for Ingram. They don't do that though.
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The Knicks probably would trade RJ or Quickley but that’s an odd team structure for the Knicks, Miami could maybe do Herro and a sign and trade for Duncan I suppose but that’s questionable. Houston could trade the 2 and 24 for BI and the 10 but how does that help the Pels win now? Sixers Maxey, Thybulle and some picks but stll questionable how that helps immediately.

how about a three way trade:

kings trade Buddy + Barnes +Bagley + 9 +39

Pels trade BI + filler

Raps trade Siakam + filler

Kings get BI + filler
Pels get Siakam Buddy +39
Toronto gets Barnes, Bagley, 9
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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#253
#253
hrdboild said:
I have no idea what the Pelicans are trying to do if trading Ingram is part of their plan but I'm intrigued that we're mentioned as a possibility. He wouldn't be a big boost to our defense but he's good enough and he represents a legit option for a young go-to scorer in the half court which is a significant piece worth talking about. Trading Buddy back to New Orleans to help space the floor for Zion makes a lot of sense for them but I don't know what else they would want from us.
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The Pels seem to be recalibrating by really really building around Zion now. It’s like Griffin got cold feet on whatever rebuild he originally decided on when he traded AD and has decided to take on a completely different rebuild by having a fire sale on anyone who isn’t Zion (including trading down to dump Bledsoe and shopping their all-star 23-year-old 3/4 wing for some reason).

seems like he’s trying to do a Process style dump while trying not to tick Zion off so much that he demands a trade.
 
Jkbiker

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#255
#255
Jkbiker's insane trade of the day

Raptors Out: Sign&trade Lowry 22mper yr 3 yrs, Siakam
Raptors In: Barnes,Bagley,Wright, JustinJames, Jaxson Hayes #9, #17,Kings 2023 1st

Why for Raptors: going to loose Lowry anyway, Get 1 & 2 yr contracts, 3 1st rd pks

Pelicans Out: Ingram, Jaxson Hayes, Kira Lewis#17
Pelicans In: Buddy, Lowry

Why for Pels: Lowry, Buddy is Zions dream back court

Kings out: Buddy,Barnes,Bagley,Wright,James,#9, 2023 1st
Kings in: Ingram.Siakam, Kira Lewis

Why for Kings: ingram & Siakam two win now players, nuf said!

I changed it around due to below trade
 
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Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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#260
#260
They gave up an additional first round pick and moved down to undo two of Griffin's acquisitions from last season. I guess they really wanted to re-sign Lonzo.


Also Adams is going to be great in Memphis.
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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#265
#265
Capt. Factorial said:
This must be a deal that will go down after August 1, because the money does not even REMOTELY work in the current year. For next year, the Grizz have some salary cap space to play with, and Adams' contract takes a big dip.
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Yeah, I was trying to make it work in the ESPN trade machine and it kept rejecting it.
 
Hoovtrain

Hoovtrain

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#270
#270
Jkbiker said:
Jkbiker's insane trade of the day

Raptors Out: Sign&trade Lowry 22mper yr 3 yrs, Siakam
Raptors In: Barnes,Bagley, Bledsoe, JustinJames, #9,#10, Kings 2023 1st

Why for Raptors: going to loose Lowry anyway, Get 1 & 2 yr contracts, 3 1st rd pks

Pelicans Out: Ingram, Bledsoe,#10
Pelicans In: Buddy, Lowry

Why for Pels: Get rid of Bledsoe contract, Lowry, Buddy is Zions dream back court

Kings out: Buddy,Barnes,Bagley,James,#9, 2023 1st
Kings in: Ingram.Siakam

Why for Kings: ingram & Siakam two win now players, nuf said!
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https://twitter.com/statuses/1419756065625972747
 
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