Future of Vlade
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Dude, you continue to spin things to meet your agenda. No the Kings haven't signed a free agent this year but I'm not convinced that's the bottom line requirement you seem to think it is.
Lots of posters have commented about why they aren't upset about the free agent no-signing so I'm not going to repeat their arguments. TaxMan, kingsboi and Capt. Factorial have covered it quite well (just to name the most recent 3).
So once again, I'll just reiterate that NO, the Kings not signing a free agent at this point doesn't indicate a problem to me.
Lots of posters have commented about why they aren't upset about the free agent no-signing so I'm not going to repeat their arguments. TaxMan, kingsboi and Capt. Factorial have covered it quite well (just to name the most recent 3).
So once again, I'll just reiterate that NO, the Kings not signing a free agent at this point doesn't indicate a problem to me.
I don't have an opinion or care what makes a "fan" lesser or greater.
I think some folks here are less objective than others.
I think some fans are less correct regarding how things are going to play out than others.
I think post upon post over 12 years prove that out pretty well.
I don't measure your fandom, and I don't care about it. I've measured your opinions ... and found those to be less correct and/or objective than others.
I think some folks here are less objective than others.
I think some fans are less correct regarding how things are going to play out than others.
I think post upon post over 12 years prove that out pretty well.
I don't measure your fandom, and I don't care about it. I've measured your opinions ... and found those to be less correct and/or objective than others.
It’s anything but knee jerk bull.
Assuming the youngsters (Fox, Jackson, Bagley, Skal) don’t progress (which was a key assumption in my question) you are left with 3 credible players. Bogdan, Hield and Giles. Two of them are going to have their contracts end in 2020 (Bogdan and Hield). You have no 1st round pick and the team can only be improved by free agency.
Are you going to bet on Vlade to sign the missing pieces next summer? He purposely cleared cap space and failed this year. If he fails again, you going to have another sub-par year and have a good chance of loosing Bogdan and Hield. At that point you are really back to square one. You better have your plan in place now.
Assuming the youngsters (Fox, Jackson, Bagley, Skal) don’t progress (which was a key assumption in my question) you are left with 3 credible players. Bogdan, Hield and Giles. Two of them are going to have their contracts end in 2020 (Bogdan and Hield). You have no 1st round pick and the team can only be improved by free agency.
Are you going to bet on Vlade to sign the missing pieces next summer? He purposely cleared cap space and failed this year. If he fails again, you going to have another sub-par year and have a good chance of loosing Bogdan and Hield. At that point you are really back to square one. You better have your plan in place now.
It sucks that Vlade keeps missing out on opportunities to obtain first rounders.
He lost one in the cousins trade, could of traded doncic for a first + a player, lost our pick to philly, probably could of made some deals to trade capspace for a 1st.
When you add all that up its a lot of missed potential talent.
I like the young talent hes brought in, but he needs to start capitalizing in other areas.
He lost one in the cousins trade, could of traded doncic for a first + a player, lost our pick to philly, probably could of made some deals to trade capspace for a 1st.
When you add all that up its a lot of missed potential talent.
I like the young talent hes brought in, but he needs to start capitalizing in other areas.
Hezonja and Anderson were the only two guys I thought really worth even looking into and Hezonja wanted a short-term deal and liked Fizdale apparently and Anderson got way more than he should have with Memphis. I'm also not convinced either of those guys make the Kings any better. This free agent class had crazy talent at the top but it dropped off quickly. I'm mildly concerned about Vlade not netting any free agents, but I don't think any of the difference makers in free agency were an option.
Some of those other guys are flat out terrible and then Parker took $20 million to go to his hometown. Seriously??? If we signed him to 20 million people would be going ape...
Following this team is an exercise in frustration. Every once in a while you catch lightning in a bottle and get a small window. We actually have 4 or 5 exciting prospects and are on the verge of catching that lightning. If we overpay on some nobody or high risk dude, we crash that window. Look at the mess Olshey made in Portland. Look at Minnesota, after years of doing nothing with KG, they go as long as we have missing playoffs, and now have completely bungled it. They have a big 3 that seemingly hate each other and can't wait to be broken up, and the coach that many people lusted over seems to be a nightmare to play for.
Can we just appreciate that we seem to have some stability, a positive vibe with all the kids that are here, and flexibility to wait for the right move going forward, while the West sorts itself out. I'd say we have 4 years (LeBron's contract) to work our way into a 4-5 seed and then maybe a window will open the following year. Let's play it slow.
Following this team is an exercise in frustration. Every once in a while you catch lightning in a bottle and get a small window. We actually have 4 or 5 exciting prospects and are on the verge of catching that lightning. If we overpay on some nobody or high risk dude, we crash that window. Look at the mess Olshey made in Portland. Look at Minnesota, after years of doing nothing with KG, they go as long as we have missing playoffs, and now have completely bungled it. They have a big 3 that seemingly hate each other and can't wait to be broken up, and the coach that many people lusted over seems to be a nightmare to play for.
Can we just appreciate that we seem to have some stability, a positive vibe with all the kids that are here, and flexibility to wait for the right move going forward, while the West sorts itself out. I'd say we have 4 years (LeBron's contract) to work our way into a 4-5 seed and then maybe a window will open the following year. Let's play it slow.
Hezonja put similar numbers in his 3rd season that Jackson did in his 1st. It is premature to say one will be better than the other.
McDermott does nothing but shoot. He is a net negative in my book.
Harris resigned with his own team almost immediately after teams were allowed to talk (doesn't appear he even tried to talk to anybody else even though it looked like there would be a lot of interest).
The last 2 are both PFs IMO. They would've been hard up to find enough minutes.
McDermott does nothing but shoot. He is a net negative in my book.
Harris resigned with his own team almost immediately after teams were allowed to talk (doesn't appear he even tried to talk to anybody else even though it looked like there would be a lot of interest).
The last 2 are both PFs IMO. They would've been hard up to find enough minutes.
im gonna continue to reserve judgement for a bit.. his trades outside of the original (just in the office not knowing what he was doing deal with Philly) have been good and landed Harry Giles and Skal at the end of the first. Plus the balls to trade Cousins which ensured us keeping our 1st round that year (fox) then getting Giles and mason? look at that trade to get Bogie. We have to wait at least 2 years now with all the talent we have PLUS the fact that GS is killing the NBA at least for the next 2 years
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